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09-14-2008 , 02:15 PM
I dont see how there is any argument to shoving the river. IBOK would you shove the river with 99-1010? 99 and KK are pretty much the same hand given the fact we know the Villians game and we know that he is never over limping with any kinda big pair or broadway.
09-14-2008 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by DWare94
I dont see how there is any argument to shoving the river. IBOK would you shove the river with 99-1010? 99 and KK are pretty much the same hand given the fact we know the Villians game and we know that he is never over limping with any kinda big pair or broadway.
i said i would probably just call the river. he either has nuts or air. i would only shove river if villain was a tard and i thought there would be value in doing it.
09-14-2008 , 02:49 PM
I think it's a fold to his raise. I feel like you never see worse.
09-14-2008 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by stupandaus


Full Tilt Poker $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

TILTASAURUSREX (SB): $874.05
Hero (BB): $487.95
1theeye1 (CO): $262.60
StoneTemplPilot (BTN): $756.10

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BB with K K
1theeye1 calls $2, StoneTemplPilot calls $2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $12, 1theeye1 calls $10, StoneTemplPilot calls $10

Flop: ($37.00) 7 7 7 (3 players)
Hero bets $22, 1theeye1 folds, StoneTemplPilot calls $22

Turn: ($81.00) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, StoneTemplPilot checks

River: ($81.00) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $66, StoneTemplPilot requests TIME, StoneTemplPilot raises to $268, Hero raises to $453.95 all in, StoneTemplPilot calls $185.95

Final Pot: $988.90
Hero shows K K (a full house, Sevens full of Kings)
StoneTemplPilot shows J 7 (four of a kind, Sevens)
StoneTemplPilot wins $986.90
(Rake: $2.00)
ok you seriously cant figure out why he limp called j7sooted preflop?
09-14-2008 , 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Keyser.
i would pay so much money for some mcnuggents now. mannnn.
This has inspired me to go get some McD's now. It is so delicious but you feel like crap like 5 min after eating it. Who cares. Hungover.

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Originally Posted by ryang

semi brag
Coach me? I kind of suck as everyone here likes to mention.

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Originally Posted by Check_The_Nuts
ok you seriously cant figure out why he limp called j7sooted preflop?
Quad mining? FWIW I don't like checking back the turn (CC) or pushing the river (Stup). Obv both are better players than me though.




I have figured out that I play much better when drinking/drunk. No tilt issues at all. On my way back from McD's I think I'll pick up some Dogfish Head.

I have been using FT shortcuts the last couple days. It was tilting the hell out of me until I disabled like 90% of the features. I think my computer is too slow to run everything.
09-14-2008 , 03:19 PM
fish probably doesnt fold enough postflop so limping a hand even that weak will probably show a profit vs him. He also likely limp/calls a ton preflop. Vs hero here who decides to stick it in 500 dollars with one pair he obviously has enough implied odds.
09-14-2008 , 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by I'mAPenguin!
I think it's a fold to his raise. I feel like you never see worse.
OM NOM NOM.
09-14-2008 , 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by eastern motors
This has inspired me to go get some McD's now. It is so delicious but you feel like crap like 5 min after eating it. Who cares. Hungover.

I have figured out that I play much better when drinking/drunk. No tilt issues at all. On my way back from McD's I think I'll pick up some Dogfish Head.
Ah, you're here! If you don't mind, when you're finished w yr Bigmac and beer, hangover nursed and whatnot, reply to my post a page back.

Cheers.
09-14-2008 , 04:35 PM
imo wendys>McDs
09-14-2008 , 04:45 PM
YAARRRRRRRRRR
09-14-2008 , 04:46 PM
Fwiw, I know I massively screwed up POSTflop in that hand. lol nice post, ibok. I was cursing myself by the river because I'd never get all the money in with my crappy line... then he shoved!

Next time I flop quads on one of you guys, I'll take a radically different line and just open shove, ha you'll never it coming!

Last edited by ClutchCity; 09-14-2008 at 04:53 PM.
09-14-2008 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ClutchCity
Next time I flop quads, I'll take a radically different line and just open shove, ha you'll never it coming!
now we will!
09-14-2008 , 05:04 PM
Full Tilt Poker $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CoaieMari (BTN): $218.00
charmander123 (SB): $44.30
Hero (BB): $205.00
Stenkrigarn (UTG): $183.30
Trace4U2NV (CO): $501.20

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BB with 8 8
3 folds, charmander123 raises to $44.30 all in, Hero calls $42.30

Flop: ($88.60) 2 K Q

Turn: ($88.60) K

River: ($88.60) 7

Final Pot: $88.60
charmander123 shows 9 T (a pair of Kings)
Hero shows 8 8 (two pair, Kings and Eights)
Hero wins $85.60
(Rake: $3.00)


this guy plays shortstacked all the time, is there any chance this is a profitable play?
09-14-2008 , 05:07 PM
I just lost $1500 and then quit. I think this is the first time I have ever just quit before staying up all night trying to get unstuck. Hmm, I feel kinda dirty. What am i supposed to do all night now?
09-14-2008 , 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by I-b-O-k
I just lost $1500 and then quit. I think this is the first time I have ever just quit before staying up all night trying to get unstuck. Hmm, I feel kinda dirty. What am i supposed to do all night now?
videos/hand histories etc.
09-14-2008 , 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by I-b-O-k
I just lost $1500 and then quit. I think this is the first time I have ever just quit before staying up all night trying to get unstuck. Hmm, I feel kinda dirty. What am i supposed to do all night now?
hookers and blow
09-14-2008 , 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by I-b-O-k
I just lost $1500 and then quit. I think this is the first time I have ever just quit before staying up all night trying to get unstuck. Hmm, I feel kinda dirty. What am i supposed to do all night now?
Think about getting unstuck until you A) get drunk or B)break down and try to get unstuck, then if a) while drunk you break down and try to get unstuck and achieve rostucko, or if b) lose another $1500 and break your computer then get drunk and wake up on someones lawn
09-14-2008 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by I-b-O-k
I just lost $1500 and then quit. I think this is the first time I have ever just quit before staying up all night trying to get unstuck. Hmm, I feel kinda dirty. What am i supposed to do all night now?
get a life
09-14-2008 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by naaz
get a life
You're just a brutal as your avatar suggests.
09-14-2008 , 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by quaid745
Full Tilt Poker $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CoaieMari (BTN): $218.00
charmander123 (SB): $44.30
Hero (BB): $205.00
Stenkrigarn (UTG): $183.30
Trace4U2NV (CO): $501.20

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BB with 8 8
3 folds, charmander123 raises to $44.30 all in, Hero calls $42.30

Flop: ($88.60) 2 K Q

Turn: ($88.60) K

River: ($88.60) 7

Final Pot: $88.60
charmander123 shows 9 T (a pair of Kings)
Hero shows 8 8 (two pair, Kings and Eights)
Hero wins $85.60
(Rake: $3.00)


this guy plays shortstacked all the time, is there any chance this is a profitable play?
If you're honest and give us a range of hands that you'd fold in this situation I think it may actually be +EV for him to shove there.
09-14-2008 , 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by I-b-O-k
I just lost $1500 and then quit. I think this is the first time I have ever just quit before staying up all night trying to get unstuck. Hmm, I feel kinda dirty. What am i supposed to do all night now?
1k flips imo.
09-14-2008 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by naaz
get a life
maybe you could be my life coach as your obvioulsy the expert on it.
09-14-2008 , 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by clowntable
If you're honest and give us a range of hands that you'd fold in this situation I think it may actually be +EV for him to shove there.
well i think i have to loosen it up, although maybe now he will tighten up his range vs me. if he keeps the same range, i think i should call with 25%, which is
66+,A2s+,K6s+,Q8s+,J8s+,T8s+,A7o+,K9o+,QTo+,JTo
09-14-2008 , 05:35 PM
quaid,

Grabbing ranges that wide right out of pokerstove by typing in a % generally isn't a good idea. Think about how some of those hands do hot & cold vs. reasonable ranges and you'll see that you can add a lot of equity to your calling range by choosing a different 25%.
09-14-2008 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by quaid745
well i think i have to loosen it up, although maybe now he will tighten up his range vs me. if he keeps the same range, i think i should call with 25%, which is
66+,A2s+,K6s+,Q8s+,J8s+,T8s+,A7o+,K9o+,QTo+,JTo
against that calling range its -ev by a fair amount

      
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