Well, he had blockers if you had T8.

lol, awesome

the nittier you are the narrower your "coolering range" gets. this should be fairly intuitive but the more bluffs that you remove from your range, the smaller your (profitable) valueshoving range becomes. a ton of nits aren't aware of this and still continue to felt stuff like TT preflop to 3- and 4-bets and it ****ing cracks me up everytime.

a couple weeks ago a known 12/4 or something 3b/called my utg 4b w/AKo and openshoved a disconnected all hearts flop w/the A. (i held ) i suppose flop is standard but preflop is ****ing awful. you CANNOT 3bet AKo for value there with that image and lol @ flatting the 4bet with AKo OOP

Seems pretty standard, not much of a herocall imo.

I propose an iggytt v Shrugs match of the ages.

Plz to be making it a SSNL Survivor match.

haha, I was playing today and noticed that I was sitting at a table with shrugs, furthermore I noticed that I had taken a note on him (this was from a month or so ago before I even knew he was 2p2). And, no joke, my note says "awful fish, loves to float and bluff in awful places" lol

shpanko..mind sharing what you had when you donked into 3 players on that JTxss flop?

fwiw, i had a flush draw

being a member or a lurker of this forum really doesn't mean a whole lot. plenty of idiots attend college and thousands more could easily sit in on classes or just access the library reserves if they wished.

I had KJo, I wanted to get the hand HU with the idiot at the table. I could've checked and seen how things developed but the idiot wasn't going anywhere with any pair or any gs so I figured I'd donk out.

can anybody ever fold here?

Full Tilt Poker Game #6218181455: Table Jett (6 max) - $1/$2 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:04:30 ET - 2008/04/29
Seat 1: Vluff S4S ($301.10)
Seat 2: iggytt ($205.40)
Seat 4: moneymannc ($80), is sitting out
Seat 5: ELMER83 ($323.40)
Seat 6: HoytCorkins5 ($205.40)
iggytt posts the small blind of $1
ELMER83 is sitting out
HoytCorkins5 posts the big blind of $2
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to iggytt [As Kd]
Vluff S4S folds
Vluff S4S stands up
iggytt has 15 seconds left to act
iggytt raises to $6
ELMER83 stands up
HoytCorkins5 has 15 seconds left to act
HoytCorkins5 has requested TIME
HoytCorkins5 calls $4
*** FLOP *** [6d 5s 5d]
iggytt bets $9
HoytCorkins5 has 15 seconds left to act
HoytCorkins5 has requested TIME
HoytCorkins5 calls $9
*** TURN *** [6d 5s 5d] [Ks]
iggytt has 15 seconds left to act
iggytt checks
HoytCorkins5 has 15 seconds left to act
HoytCorkins5 has requested TIME
ramimehta sits down
HoytCorkins5 checks
*** RIVER *** [6d 5s 5d Ks] [3h]
DelSol0012 sits down
DelSol0012 adds $44.80
iggytt has 15 seconds left to act
iggytt bets $25
ramimehta adds $80
HoytCorkins5 has 15 seconds left to act
HoytCorkins5 has requested TIME
HoytCorkins5 raises to $84
iggytt has 15 seconds left to act
iggytt has requested TIME
ToastyAA sits down
ToastyAA adds $80
iggytt calls $59
*** SHOW DOWN ***
HoytCorkins5 shows [5c 5h] four of a kind, Fives
iggytt mucks
HoytCorkins5 wins the pot ($197) with four of a kind, Fives
iggytt adds $93.60
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $198 | Rake $1
Board: [6d 5s 5d Ks 3h]
Seat 1: Vluff S4S (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: iggytt (small blind) mucked [As Kd] - two pair, Kings and Fives
Seat 4: moneymannc is sitting out
Seat 5: ELMER83 is sitting out
Seat 6: HoytCorkins5 (big blind) showed [5c 5h] and won ($197) with four of a kind, Fives

i would have value stacked myself there so i can't really say

I don't fold but he slowrolled you on every street.

hoyt corkins seemed very straightforward, but you probably cant fold there anyway.

i cant fold there

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

Hero (MP): $119.85
CO: $100
BTN: $209.95
SB: $25.80
BB: $114.50
UTG: $26.45

Pre-Flop: 4 A dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG calls $1, Hero raises to $4.50, CO folds, BTN calls $4.50, 2 folds, UTG calls $3.50

Flop: ($15) J 8 J (3 Players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $8, BTN calls $8, UTG calls $8

Turn: ($39) 4 (3 Players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $14, BTN calls $14, UTG calls $13.95 and is All-In

River: ($80.95) 3 (3 Players - 1 is All-In)
Hero bets $93.35 and is All-In, BTN calls $93.35

Results: $267.65 Pot ($3 Rake)
Hero showed 4 A (a flush, Ace high) and LOST (-$119.85 NET)
BTN showed J J (four of a kind, Jacks) and WON $264.65 (+$144.80 NET)
UTG mucked 9 K (a flush, King high) and LOST (-$26.45 NET)

wtf pwnedddd

has anyone noticed that lately more 400nl regs have moved to 200nl rather than vise-versa?

hes pretty bad... makes basic value betting mistakes and overvalues hands easily... just straightfoward bad...
and he rarely 3bets
but i love playing against him

like who?

I have noticed myself playing 200 just to keep the iron man status, lol.
This is my month off and somehow I got 10k hands :P

jballer88
I R Teh Donk
TonyRomo88
JS2
clowntable

couple others I can't think of

I've seen a couple familiar faces for sure. And for some I'm pretty sure it's because the way they played there was no way they were winning :P

Edit: And since people are always interested in the differences between levels etc. 200 is really soft imo and lots of people with decent looking stats are not really thinking about why they do stuff.

And the real beauty of 200 is that you can pretty much sit at any table with saw flop > 32% and that there are plenty of those usually (or other good tables).

Oh yeah and I'm not a great player either so the comments should apply to most people posting here (who probably have a skill level around mine).

For those of you wonder what goes on in alldie's head as he robotically plays 17 tables:


Full Tilt Poker $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

BTN: $791.10
SB: $392.00
BB: $627.60
UTG: $400.00
alldie83 (CO): $558.50

Pre Flop:
UTG raises to $14, alldie83 raises to $48, 3 folds, UTG raises to $109, alldie83 raises to $558.50 all in, UTG calls $291 all in

Flop: ($806.00) 7 9 5

Turn: ($806.00) T

River: ($806.00) K

Final Pot: $806.00
UTG shows Ks As
alldie83 shows Qd 9d
UTG wins $803.00
(Rake: $3.00)

i dont get it, alldie is another one of those people who barely won at 2ptBB and 1/2 and somehow decided to move up to 2/4?

i mean, i'd rather have a fish in his spot than him, but whatever, i don't mind him at my tables

2PTBB/100 is a lot if you get in boatloads of hands. Even if it's only 50k hands that's 2k*BB each month (+ RB) or 20 BIs so essentially you can automoveup every month.
Or at least try and see how it goes.