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Normal stacking spot.......but not this time damnit!

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04-01-2008 , 09:40 PM

bassmaster2008

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Opp is 20/15/2.3 over 450 hands. Due to all the players in the pot I feel like SOMEBODY had me beat here, and wanted me to know right away to get rid of the others. What line would you take?

UltimateBet $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

CO: $199.00
BTN: $250.65
SB: $284.85
BB: $144.90
Hero (UTG): $200.00
MP: $258.15

Pre Flop: Hero is UTG with J

Hero raises to $7, 1 fold, CO calls $7, BTN calls $7, 1 fold, BB calls $5

Flop: ($29.00) 9

(4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $20, CO raises to $75, BTN folds, BB folds, hero ???

04-01-2008 , 09:48 PM

jackwilcox

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yea i think the raise is def trying to get drawing hands out of the pot, so likely he has 99 for a set imo. if u call, ur in a big pot oop with only top pair, and theres a lot of scary turn cards.... id fold personally.

04-01-2008 , 11:03 PM

higHstaKesOwneR

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fold you are eather drawing dead or flipping

04-01-2008 , 11:08 PM

Xanta

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jackwilcox

Right, he raises big with 99 because he wants draws to fold....

I shove this if I don't think CO calls J9 preflop, might muck if I do.

04-02-2008 , 12:00 AM

nikinblinds

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Xanta

Right, he raises big with 99 because he wants draws to fold....

I shove this if I don't think CO calls J9 preflop, might muck if I do.

yeah, vilain dependant i get it in here a bunch.

04-02-2008 , 02:12 AM

bassmaster2008

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told me he flopped a huge draw for what its worth

04-02-2008 , 02:15 AM

LSgambler

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Your equity vs his range sucks. I doubt villian is raising your c-bet light in a 4 way pot. Id just fold probably.

04-02-2008 , 02:18 AM

corsakh

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Depends what type of players are behind imo. If they are horrible, I'd fold without thinking. If they are tags, its close.

04-02-2008 , 02:34 AM

bassmaster2008

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Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,368

I didn't really know enough about the players to make the fine judgement needed for this spot so folding the best option?

Folding these spots make me feel like I could bluff anybody off of any hand if I just raise after flop.

If players know I'll lay down TPTK to a raise why not raise me every cbet. Anybody know what i mean?

04-02-2008 , 02:41 AM

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dfhwy7856

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I'm pretty sure starting to make big bluffs on a 4way pot on this board is a good way to lose money, considering most ppl dont even want to fold top pair here

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