partypoker - €0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 110.4 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 26.70, PFR: 22.21, 3Bet Preflop: 10.33, Hands: 2,480)
Hero (SB): 100.5 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A Q

BTN raises to 2 BB, Hero raises to 8 BB, fold, BTN raises to 18 BB, Hero calls 10 BB

Flop: (37 BB, 2 players) A 3 7
Hero checks, BTN bets 17.26 BB, Hero calls 17.26 BB

Turn: (71.52 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero checks, BTN bets 64.74 BB and is all-in, fold

BTN wins 132.26 BB

Vilain 27/23 on 2k hands, 53Stl BTN, 50F3B and 5% 4bet so far (similar stats on BTN)
Cbet flop / turn (in STR) : 55 / 67 (looks quite simmilar in 3BP but sample too small)

If you are going to fold top pair here I don't think this is a terrible spot to do so because their 4bet % will be wider here so hands like A7s, A3s and 65s beat us. I'm calling, though, mostly because we are just about at the our range and its 3-handed.

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What flop we want to see when we called 4 bet pre with AQ? I do not know how we can fold now.

Cawl

I think it might be too exploitable to fold. Gotta call and bluff catch here and cry when he turns over A3hh.

Not really sure what his bluffs would be here though.

Yea i agree that in theorie obv snap call
But in practice i'm not sure if the call is profitable here, especially since this vilain doesnt seem to 4bet a ton

The arguments "if we fold here should have fold before or what" usually not good imo, poker is a game where we have to reevaluate the situation evertime that it changes, vilain will not always shove turn

I think fold is OK actually. many 4bet bluff ranges have few semibluffs on this board, and the ones that do may even opt to xback turn since so much of your flop calling range is TP+.

out of curiosity, what's the sample size on those 4bets? my rough math came out to 60, which would be 3 4bets out of 60 opportunities. seems somewhat significant.

To be fair we need more clarity on villains 4bet range but they can definitely have diamond draws and the straight draw.



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yeah you're probably right

come on, you have top pair 3 handed in a 4bet pot

i know some winning ppl who would go w their super exploitable gut feelings in this spot, because a) this is 50nl and b)which means this is AK almost always. I personally would call here, because folding seems just a little bit too exploitable when its 3 handed and reg. table regulars at those stakes tend to play pretty spewy shorthanded.

I think folding is fine, there just aren't many bluffs here and I don't see villain shoving with a worse ace.

I know its 3 handed but folding pre isn't all that bad as you are at best flipping against his 4bet value range.

What diamond draws?

Kxs and Qxs combos too weak with which to flat the 3bet

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Unless he's 4betting **** like K6s, I don't think there's many DD combos here at all.

Well that would be nice to know, but this is heading into a conversation about appropriate 4bet bluff hands so we'll just drop it

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Nah i think it's important. You say he has diamond combos OTT but rly there is ****all if any. Most of his 4b bluffs will be AXs which is blocked by the board, and he's going to call w **** like TJdd/78dd and not 4bet. don't know if anyone at 50 is 4betting K6s and so I'm pretty sure we can remove just about every DD combo from his range on the turn.

Also have no idea what straight draws villain has? No wheel combos are playing flop/turn this way, 56s already beats us (but v likely doesn't 4bet).

I think this is a spot where you are just like oh yeah board's coorindated and has a FD so we have to call but in reality, if you stop and think, there's no flush draw or straight draw combos in v's range (incredibly unlikely). It's something I do a bit of too during live play but recognising it later is important.

I would 4bet a decent amount of Kxs in vilain shoes as a standard BTN (calling most Axs), i thought it was pretty standard isn't it ?

But still don't think there's enough bluffs in vilain's range and actually the more i review the hand the more this looks like a nice explo fold to me

If they are playing my range, he has them. If they are playing your range, they dont. It is 3-handed, so I expect them to be playing looser than normal.

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