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10-22-2008 , 01:21 PM

Gambi

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10-22-2008 , 01:29 PM

klink10k

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yes

fold the flop.

10-22-2008 , 01:31 PM

YouCheckRaise

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id say villain has 88+ or AK maybe with hearts, nothing you can beat.

10-22-2008 , 01:33 PM

lootbag

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3 way.. fold the flop his worst hand his is a small overpair and everything else is a axflush draw or combo draw and set

10-22-2008 , 01:50 PM

Lego05

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Folding the flop looks good to me.

10-22-2008 , 01:51 PM

Gambi

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Mhm yes i got a little carried away here but have to mention, that he was very aggressive especially on the flop. He has seen me very aggressive Contibetting and second barreling alot, just felt he must be a little bit pissed off and decides to make a stand.
On the turn he has to fold every overpair and most draws so i decided a push would be +ev here?

10-22-2008 , 01:54 PM

Xanta

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Oh man this is bad. You have very little FE and he either has an autostackoff hand or something with great equity against your one pair.

10-22-2008 , 02:03 PM

grac

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gambi

Na man, he's not folding any of those hands until you are a few hundred bbs deeper. What's villian calling on the turn 120 into 330 = no fold. Fold flop, end of thread.

10-22-2008 , 02:11 PM

Gambi

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So he won't lay down an FD or 77+ given 1:2.75? (which make the majority of his range together with sets because OnePair+Draw is unlikely given his preflop stats?)
Its just that i wondered about his bet on the turn, he is definitely thinking and given my image he should know that i would bluff on that ace very very often so i just saw it as some kind of scared bet.

10-22-2008 , 02:18 PM

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Lego05

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How many 77+'s does he have? Maybe he has TT or JJ (does he bet these on the turn though?)... but I don't really expect him to do this on the flop with 77-99 much here and I expect he would have 3bet QQ+ pre. He could easily have 66,55,22, or some AhXh like AhQh/AhJh. Could also have some draw like 8h7h or Th9h (which is calling getting 3 to 1 and has good equity against you). Maybe some draws like KhQh or KhJh or QhJh maybe (these should probably fold.) Maybe occasionally an air hand.

I don't really think this is gonna work out for you.

10-22-2008 , 02:41 PM

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mburke05

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are you steaming because he showed up with JhQh or something? how is it even a question here against an 18/11?

10-22-2008 , 02:49 PM

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rsxpunk

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lol

10-22-2008 , 02:54 PM

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orlov

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lol

10-22-2008 , 02:55 PM

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mburke05

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lol

10-22-2008 , 02:57 PM

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coldi

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olo

10-22-2008 , 03:26 PM

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societymax

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Quote:

Originally Posted by coldi

olo

intruiging

10-22-2008 , 03:47 PM

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Bonk

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Quote:

Originally Posted by coldi

olo

Fancy play syndrome.

10-22-2008 , 03:53 PM

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shpanko

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SFP

10-22-2008 , 04:37 PM

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eule

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öLö

10-22-2008 , 06:06 PM

#20

infinite_loop

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Total spew? Yes.

He may very well not be afraid of an A. On the flop I think flatting the BB's check-raise should be very rare and probably really bad against this opponent.

Beyond the flop, nothing good can happen.

10-22-2008 , 06:59 PM

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Lego05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gambi

given my image he should know that i would bluff on that ace very very often so i just saw it as some kind of scared bet.

Missed this the first time. If he knows that you would bluff on that A often than doesn't that mean he is going to call more often? And isn't that bad for you here?