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10-23-2009 , 02:21 PM

greybeard

grinder

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 406

villan is cbboy on ftp, running at 14/14 3bet 14 over 40 hands, but again my pt3 sucks so not sure these are accurate.whats my turn line here? if a bet gets flatted on turn are we c/folding river

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UTG: $179.15
MP: $461.40
Hero (CO): $498.75
BTN: $234.30
SB: $193.00
BB: $200.00

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is CO with Q

UTG calls $2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $9, BTN calls $9, 2 folds, UTG calls $7

Flop: ($30.00) 4

(3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $24, BTN calls $24, UTG folds

Turn: ($78.00) 2

(2 players)

10-23-2009 , 02:30 PM

Nitrub

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 4,386

check/f

10-23-2009 , 06:09 PM

crazyavin

centurion

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 136

14/14 is rarely turning his PP into a bluff here, so c/f turn, and if turn is checked thin value on River

10-23-2009 , 06:11 PM

Ksight3

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 15,464

What? If anything this is bet turn C/F river

10-23-2009 , 07:12 PM

cbboy

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 4,655

I bet turn here to get value from smaller pp's. Hands like 9d9x will probably call another bet here.

10-23-2009 , 08:05 PM

Luck3yChance

old hand

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,901

I like to check fold this turn because he will always check back his lower pps than urs and bet his flushs and sets if he checks behind i vbet the river. Villain isnt going to be bluffing this turn ever

10-23-2009 , 08:05 PM

Luck3yChance

old hand

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Ccboy wanna share wat u had in this hand

10-23-2009 , 08:07 PM

cbboy

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 4,655

oh, didn't realize this was against me tbh. I don't remember the hand. gimme a hand number or something and i will look it up.

10-23-2009 , 08:09 PM

Luck3yChance

old hand

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,901

Lol i didnt think u saw it was u in the hand or u were making a joke about how op should have played it

10-23-2009 , 08:10 PM

#10

skibbel

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 4,867

i agree with b/f

10-23-2009 , 08:11 PM

#11

cbboy

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 4,655

nope, i didn't read the sn. i should probably do that in the future though. hahaha.

10-23-2009 , 08:16 PM

#12

cbboy

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 4,655

just wanted to say that my advice remains the same after finding out I was villain. lol.

10-23-2009 , 10:33 PM

#13

NOSKAA

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 119

value bet, c/f river

10-24-2009 , 10:25 AM

#14

greybeard

grinder

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 406

lol, cbboy making my life hell, ty. I think b/f turn then c/f river is prob best. i ended up c/call turn, which you insta-bet like 2/3rd pot and insta shoved a blank river. I immediately hated my turn call but somehow convinced myself you where protecting worse hands/acting up and would check behind river, but obv youd never not shove river if you bet turn as my hand is pretty face up. my pt is acting up but if i can find the hand ill pm u or post it here if your willing to share.

10-24-2009 , 10:33 AM

#15

tripdeuces

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 3,530

okay everybody who says b/f. Give a reasonable range of hands that are worse then ours that calls a bet on the turn. Gogogogogogogogogogogogogo

10-24-2009 , 11:53 AM

#16

cbboy

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 4,655

i will definately share what I had. I just don't remember the hand atm.

tripdeuces,

you don't think that any worse hands are calling the turn? like some mid pairs with diamonds or anything like that?

10-24-2009 , 12:02 PM

#17

tripdeuces

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 3,530

I do think there are some hands. The reason why i think Nitrub has a point with c/f turn is because I think 9x9d is not a big part of your range here and I doubt you have many 7s either other than 87 and A7.

10-24-2009 , 12:05 PM

#18

cbboy

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 4,655

but if i have like A7s do you think i'm folding the turn? is that a spot where I should fold the turn if he bets?

10-24-2009 , 12:09 PM

#19

tripdeuces

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 3,530

I think against most villains you should be folding to that turn card if he barrels just because you don't beat anything really and that card isn't the best one to fire a second bullet.

10-24-2009 , 12:10 PM

#20

cbboy

Pooh-Bah

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touche. what about like 8d8x? or like 9d9x?

10-24-2009 , 12:15 PM

#21

tripdeuces

Pooh-Bah

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I think in your spot i might flip a coin and see. With the diamond redraw but a weak one it does help to consider calling twice and seeing if he will just check through on the river after making a rather suspect 2 barrel. But again I think those hands account for such a small portion of a standard range on the turn that checking with QQ is probably best because you really aren't going to extract from many hands.

10-24-2009 , 01:30 PM

#22

StewiesMinion

adept

Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 824

Anyone else, check /call flop?

10-24-2009 , 01:46 PM

#23

tripdeuces

Pooh-Bah

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why would you?

10-24-2009 , 02:58 PM

#24

xBornToLosex

disturbing

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b/f imo

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