villain, 22/17 #486
hero: 24/19

Do you bet or shove this river? If you bet, whats your sizing?

MP: $782.95
CO: $200.00
BTN: $484.65
SB: $69.80
BB: $204.50
Hero (UTG): $200.00

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is UTG with 4 4
Hero raises to $5, MP calls $5, 4 folds

Flop: ($13.00) 4 Q 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $12, MP calls $12

Turn: ($37.00) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $33, MP calls $33

River: ($103.00) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $150 all in,



One more hand (hope it's allright, kinda same situation)

Shove or valueraise?

Hero (MP): $177.35
CO: $100.00
BTN: $140.75
SB: $117.15
BB: $89.00
UTG: $200.50

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is MP with 7 7
1 fold, Hero raises to $3, CO calls $3, 1 fold, SB calls $2.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($10.00) 5 A 2 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $5, CO folds, SB calls $5

Turn: ($20.00) 5 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($20.00) 7 (2 players)
SB bets $15.50, Hero raises to $169.35 all in,

Hand 1: We need to know more, I like the shove tho, never folding a 8, some cant let go of top pair

Hand 2: Reads? i think I like 40$ more, villain can fold an Ace here probably toa shove, so I make it smaller to induce from them

ok tnx, what do you mean by inducing? induce a shove by reraising small on the river? pretty optimistic eh?

In hand 2 villain runs 18/8 #83 hands so I snapshove hoping he's just bad enough to call.
Probably not good to shove against a reg with tag stats.

Hand 1: given your bets have been quite large in relation to the pot on an unscary board and this hasn't yet deterred him I like the shove

Hand 2: While your line makes no sense except for what you're holding, I think a shove is bad because no one really ever does this as a bluff. Make it something smaller, but something a 5 will call, so maybe a small overbet.

hand 1: played super good

hand: 2 played terribad, i dnt think a ton of people can call that off with an ace, which is obv wat he has (maybe maybe maybe maybe but prolly not a 5) so just make it 50

yeah I think I agree, tnx

yeah, i agree in general, but I think if you play your hand fast against an unknown with typical "bad stats" I think we can just snap overbet and hope for a call?

well wats bad stats? i mean if hes on donkey tilt and playing super agro he'll prolly call but if u mean bad in this sense of inexperienced, he might be afraid of the overbet

well, I feel like inexperienced players always think you are bluffing, are generally calling stations and thats the reason why they are so hard to bluff but so easy to get fat value against.

yeah true, idk, ur line in hand 2 just seems like something ud never do as a bluff while hand 1 u could turn up with AK or something

Hand1 seems fine, I don't get why you're betting ~95% of the pot every street though. If this is your standard size I guess it's fine.


Hand2... don't shove. People love to fold and feel good with good hands when people shove. And really, nobody shoves this river without the nuts. Make a well-sized valuerise and make him level himself into a call instead.

shove on first hand isnt bad bc of relative potsize and value betting it makes you look stronger than a shove..

2nd hand i doubt villain is ever calling with a bare 5 unless he is tilting.. im only shoving here if villain is a callbox taht is likely to snap off trips or less. otherwise bet like 70% of pot