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NL200 deep - Overpair against LAG? NL200 deep - Overpair against LAG?

10-20-2009 , 05:45 AM
Villain is a LAG reg. dont know how to play this hand.

Boss Media Poker $200.00 deep No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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BB: $436.45
Hero (UTG): $343.83
CO: $114.26
BTN: $585.74
SB: $592.56

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is UTG with J J
Hero raises to $7, 1 fold, BTN calls $7, 2 folds

Flop: ($17.00) 8 6 T (2 players)
Hero bets $17.00, BTN calls $17

Turn: ($51.00) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $38.25, BTN raises to $80, Hero calls $41.75

River: ($211.00) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $154.00, Hero calls $154
10-20-2009 , 11:06 AM
all in on turn
10-20-2009 , 11:23 AM
why?
10-20-2009 , 11:44 AM
tough spot. hard to give a good answer with so little info. given.
10-20-2009 , 11:54 AM
Shove on turn seems horrible. Nothing u beat is calling. I think its played pretty std. I see value in c/f on the river but this board misses a good bit of his range. could be like a6 or 1010 could also be a10. I think I may have to lay this one down buts marginal imo. Would like to see wat others have to say since I am a live player and we all are bad lol
10-20-2009 , 12:00 PM
Not sure about the size of the flop bet. It just advertises an overpair imo. I'd make it more like $13. If hes got any piece of that board, hes calling you, which is fine, but if hes sniffing out your range, then you could be setting yourself up.

Again, I think your turn bet could have been a little less.

Do you have any stats on him? Would be good to see his agg frequency on all streets to give a more thorough overview of the hand.
10-20-2009 , 12:00 PM
When the turn 6 comes, you're only beating a 10, 8, or bluff. So do you think the villain is reraising the turn with any of those hands? Overpairs are in his range, and if he's a LAG then 79, sets, and 6s are there as well. His range is very wide seeing as how he's on the button. Depending on history I would have either found a fold on the turn or shoved.
10-20-2009 , 12:05 PM
This is rather dependent on what you mean by 'lag reg' if he's just really loose pre but moderately sane you can fold the turn, if he's just super agro post you should call turn/ call blank river. Regardless shoving the turn is horrendous.
10-20-2009 , 02:54 PM
Do not pot this flop, otherwise this line is totally fine if you are meeting a bad LAG opponent that is also agressive postflop. Otherwise folding turn can be okay, dont see what shove accomplishes though?
10-20-2009 , 04:16 PM
why 100% on flop? and a shove on the turn is terrible he's obviously not calling with worse. I fold turn or river without a good read that he gets spewy deep or raises draws/combo draws on the turn. Just saying he's a LAG doesn't justify calling a super strong line.
10-20-2009 , 04:18 PM
i think folding turn is pretty smart

      
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