villain is 27/22/3 with a low fold to 3bet %.. River is meh because the Q shouldnt hit his range a lot..


Poker Stars $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 28481
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SB: $326.20
BB: $217.25
UTG: $200.00
MP: $783.95
CO: $203.00
Hero (BTN): $203.55

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BTN with Q K
2 folds, CO raises to $6, Hero raises to $20, 2 folds, CO calls $14

Flop: ($43.00) A 6 K (2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($43.00) 4 (2 players)
CO bets $26, Hero calls $26

River: ($95.00) Q (2 players)
CO bets $157 all in

JTs beats you
AQ beats you
AK beats you
KQ splits

any of those could be in his range? he's not super aggressive, so i take his push as a sign of the nuts.

Why didnt you bet the flop?

why would I bet the flop?

Why did you not continuation bet the flop? Given his range due to his low fold to 3-bet% that board should look worse from his perspective than it does yours.

Your hand looks really weak when checking the flop and calling the turn.

EDIT (Response to "why would I bet the flop?): Why wouldn't you bet the flop? What do you do there with say AX or clubs? Bet I would hope. It's a 3-bet pot pre and the board nails the range your 3-bet reps, so you should be betting there with top pair or 88. Use your positional advantage. By checking the flop you lost it and now you really can't rep much.

Not only that but even if you flopped a set there it's a pretty wet board so you should be betting instead of giving your opponent a free card. You also have position in the hand and there's a lot of turns that you can use to put your opponent into a tough spot.

I cannot find one good reason to check behind on this flop after 3-betting it preflop. What made you check there?

lol, seriously? Do you just check when you have a weak hand or with you made hands to? You took the lead PF and now you check behind....

if I bet he'll fold or raise all hand that I beat and I cant call a raise

You do realize that if he folds you won the hand, right? This really isn't they type of hand where you're going to extract value from worse so folding out weaker hands with a bet shouldn't bother you.

call.

checking this flop is fine sometimes. As played i fold river.

Plz don't - you can't beat anything that he would shove. Really.

uh, false.

theres no way AQ takes this line, and somebody with such a low fold 3b would def. 4bet AK no? KQ is possible, but unlikely given turn axn and our club blocker (which would be the main reason to fire turn).

i think he either has something ridiculous like AA, Ax, 88-JJ or totally whiffed scs. I'm sorry but this is not the way he would play JTs whoever said that, is just absurd.

I don't think that either of those hands are impossible, if he had AQ, he may have wanted to not steal the lead from the 3 better who may continuation bet a hand like JJ/QQ/KQ. After the turn, he bets for value, is called, and hits 2 pair on the river which is unimportant against most of 3 better's range, but confidence inspiring none the less.

J10c, checks for a free card. hits his club, and goes for value, then more value.

J10 otherwise, checks cause he missed his flop, donk bets to steal the pot that is for sure not his if he checks down (after flop weakness), then hits his dream river and goes for the jugular.

are these lines so far off reality? if so, i'm curious what stat / action tells you so?

on the river what does AQ get value from w/ a shove? your turn argument, and sortof your flop argument is correct, but it doesn't make sense for him to shove this river if he's thinking.

JTc is one combination, and categorically it makes sense, but again, if he really thinks hes getting value from a set like QQ/KK on the river with this hand or AK/AQ, theres no reason they wont shove the river, which is why he would def not shove b/c he loses value from all other hands like AJ/Ax and he even loses your initiative to perhaps bluff a seemingly pretty decent card for your range.

and i dont think many people would bluff here without at least Jc, and that said I think most people wont flat oop w/ JTo which makes the point moot. but that;'s just my personal experience.

fair enough, i'm _just_ learning, and if my thoughts are bogus, i need to hear why so that i can correct my thinking process

as for reasons to push the river... he gets value from KQ who just fell in love with thier hand on the river, and _MIGHT_ think he can get AK to fold, scared of a set of Q or straight/flush.

those are just thoughts that might cross my mind during this hand.

he might even have QQ

After the river bet, villain's range is pretty polarized to a flush/air. AA/KK/AK/AQ/QQ are all significantly less likely given his flatcall pre plus some card removal. While I think you can see air sometimes, I don't think you see it nearly often enough given the price you're getting on the river and w/o a specific read that villain is a monkey/likes to overbet bluff, b/c most players in these games don't. The Q is a bad card for him to bluff if he's taking your flop check as weakness b/c it hit should hit a fair bit of your range {QQ, KQ, JJ}.

The flop check is fine. If you're worried about being exploited start checking AQ behind.

Why would he want AK to fold if he can beat KQ? Why would anyone fold a 2pair and call with a worse 2pair in the same spot?

I dont think he shoves worse for value or as a bluff. He knows that both the turn- and rivercard hit your range pretty hard and still he shoves the river. This is almost always a flush or a set trying to get the max from your twopairs.

3bet to at least 23, take it down on the flop.