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NL100SH: Value bet river with low flush vs. Fish?

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04-22-2011 , 05:25 PM

elcid

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Villian 26 hands: 42/31/2

PokerStars - $1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

CO: $130.75
Hero (BTN): $100.00
SB: $99.00
BB: $115.55
UTG: $112.25

SB posts SB $0.50, BB posts BB $1.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero has 5

UTG raises to $2.00, CO calls $2.00, Hero calls $2.00, fold, BB calls $1.00

Flop: ($8.50, 4 players) 5

BB checks, UTG checks, CO checks, Hero bets $5.00, fold, UTG calls $5.00, fold

Turn: ($18.50, 2 players) K

UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($18.50, 2 players) 3

UTG checks, Hero bets $9.00, UTG raises to $25.00

Fish will call with worse so easy value bet, right? Does anybody fold river?

Last edited by elcid; 04-22-2011 at 05:36 PM.

04-22-2011 , 05:35 PM

Lord_Ferus

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wtf.. are you serious?

04-22-2011 , 05:35 PM

EsandWhizz

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Id be value betting AK so yeah easiest VB ever, id go 10-12 and get called by A6 or QJ

04-22-2011 , 05:36 PM

EsandWhizz

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord_Ferus

wtf.. are you serious?

Maybe OP is the sort of guy we shouldnt be getting AK in pre-flop

04-22-2011 , 05:41 PM

elcid

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Sorry, I edited the post - the value et is not the question. The raise is.

04-22-2011 , 05:47 PM

EsandWhizz

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Never folding considering the size of the C/R, yr small bet may have induced and yr getting insane odds vs someone who may be clicking buttons.

04-22-2011 , 08:40 PM

Ligic

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bet bigger on river, call raise

04-23-2011 , 12:48 PM

orange

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call the river.

04-23-2011 , 01:06 PM

Oliver Klozoff

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Yeah, just flat the river. I'm not LOVING the spot, but it's clearly a call here.

04-23-2011 , 03:00 PM

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trial0r

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Who bets turn?

04-23-2011 , 03:08 PM

#11

Lord_Ferus

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Quote:

Originally Posted by trial0r

Who bets turn?

whats your reasoning?

04-23-2011 , 03:19 PM

#12

Dwayne Wade

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i would fire turn to fold 6x, 77-JJ, and possibly weak Qx if he has those

btw, do you think calling pre is profitable w/ this hand?

04-23-2011 , 03:24 PM

#13

trial0r

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord_Ferus

whats your reasoning?

Let me preface by saying I usually don't bluff this turn since we have so much equity here but it's obv a nice turn to barrel (as it folds out a ton of his flop c/c range) and if called we're never in terrible shape.

The better version of my question is when is it better to risk getting c/r'ed off our equity by betting the turn? Taking this villain into account, of course.

04-23-2011 , 03:29 PM

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Lord_Ferus

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Quote:

Originally Posted by trial0r

The better version of my question is when is it better to risk getting c/r'ed off our equity by betting the turn? Taking this villain into account, of course.

if hes folding alot of shared EQ/better hands which arent calling a valuebet on the river / outdraw us

in this case like T9ss or 88/Q9s type hands

04-23-2011 , 03:30 PM

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Lord_Ferus

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwayne Wade

btw, do you think calling pre is profitable w/ this hand?

close.. but probably yes

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