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NL100 weird spot with KK vs a reg NL100 weird spot with KK vs a reg

06-26-2010 , 08:24 PM
Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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MP: $62.85
CO: $107.35
BTN: $101.75
Hero (SB): $117.40
BB: $111.05
UTG: $127.85

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is SB with K K
1 fold, MP calls $1, 2 folds, Hero raises to $4, BB calls $3, MP calls $3

Flop: ($12.00) 4 4 9 (3 players)
Hero bets $7, BB raises to $20, MP folds, Hero calls $13

Turn: ($52.00) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $26, Hero calls $26

River: ($104.00) T (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $61.05 all in, Hero calls $61.05

bb is 27/21 with 13% 3bet over 360 hands, is my line ok here? i dont know what hands is he raising the flop with, and i think he doesnt flat any 4 preflop unless he didnt saw the limper, should i include A4s 45s in his range?
06-26-2010 , 08:28 PM
if there's a limper I'd flat A4s
06-27-2010 , 12:09 AM
Is raising the flop here bad because he folds his bluffs? I think we have to fold the river as disgusting as it looks. I just don't think he has a 9 or a bluff that often.
06-27-2010 , 12:52 AM
Stats are pretty loose; given theres a limper you're not far off to assume that Villain can hold a 4 here (and not just A4 and 45).
But I see no reason for him to raise that flop given that your both aren't even deep unless he specifically puts you on an overpair which is a small amount of the time given its a BvB situation essentially. More likely he would be bluff raising here and since there are no draws I like the line you took.
His turn bet is suspicious, betting half pot looks like he's setting up for an easy river shove, but I can't see us folding the river after we've put in almost half our stack. Imo folding could be the right move here, but in game I would probably play it the same as you.
06-27-2010 , 06:10 AM
\Whats the stats on MP? That's important here
06-27-2010 , 06:58 AM
never folding... if he isn't retarted he is flatting flop with hands that beat you, so he can keep the fish in the pot.
06-28-2010 , 08:16 AM
YETI principle applies - raises on dry boards are usually bluffs - and a guy who 3 bets 13% is aggro enough to overplay the smaller pairs too. Do we have his raise flop stat?

I would be more worried about 66 than anything else (assuming a 13% 3 better would have 3 bet AA-99).

Think you have to stack off on river getting almost 3:1 - $61 for a $230 pot.

      
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