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nl100: TPTK multiway action against two looseys

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04-29-2008 , 12:52 AM

Pokerdemic

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,238

MP is 41/12/3. I've been in 3 pots with him. He folded to a cbet once and raised 2 cbets that I folded to. SB is 36/16/3 over a small sample and I haven't played in a pot with him yet.

Poker Stars $0.50/$1.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

BB: $95.70
Hero (UTG): $99.70
MP: $352.95
CO: $189.30
BTN: $99.50
SB: $64.70

Pre Flop: Hero is UTG with J

Hero raises to $4, MP calls $4, 2 folds, SB calls $3.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($13.00) 4

(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $10, MP raises to $32, SB raises to $60.70 all in, Hero feels like it is an easy fold...but...he kinda wants to shove..

04-30-2008 , 04:42 PM

Pokerdemic

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,238

Did this get no love because the answer is obvious?

04-30-2008 , 05:20 PM

Mikeofreak

adept

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 747

.... He folds? Is this a trick or something.

04-30-2008 , 05:37 PM

Blacklist

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 233

shove

04-30-2008 , 06:02 PM

Pokerdemic

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,238

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikeofreak

.... He folds? Is this a trick or something.

Thank you for the productive reasoning behind your advice.

Why is this such an obvious fold? MP has raised 75% of my cbets so far, so his range is certainly not just monsters. SB is playing 36% of hands and he only had 64 bbs to begin with. They are also both fairly aggro, which means either one could be doing this with a worse J or a draw.

04-30-2008 , 06:23 PM

tells

stranger

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1

I would shove, but in a case like this I would definitely be a little wary of bottom two pair, a flush draw or straight draw... maybe even trips of 4's or 6's. Neither has an overpair, obviously. If they were as loose as you say, I'd say call, but be ready for a surprise.
The only reason I'd call is because there is a fairly good chance one has K/J and the other has a flush draw. The safe move is folding- as always.

04-30-2008 , 06:26 PM

tufat23

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 11,632

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pokerdemic

given this, i dont think jamming is unreasonable

however normally jsut fold

04-30-2008 , 06:27 PM

tufat23

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Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 11,632

Quote:

Originally Posted by tells

none of this is good.

04-30-2008 , 06:40 PM

mdm13

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 3,756

against these guys i get it in and dodge outs

04-30-2008 , 06:48 PM

#10

blah-blah-blah

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 6,718

I think MP's raise doesn't mean too much if he's been that active already and I would have felt fine about getting it in vs. SB so I get it in and see what happens.

04-30-2008 , 07:35 PM

#11

mellonballin

centurion

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 150

given read, stick it in.

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