Hi guys!

The villain in this hand was 26/22/46 (vpip,pfr,agg%), 3bet 11% over 200 hands, i was 18/15/30. He 3betted me several times and was pretty passive against other players so i thought he was doing it lightly vs me. We played a hand on another table where he 3barreled in a 3bet pot with bottom pair, on another occasion I floated a 662 (one heart) rainbow IP with AhQh, turned a pair of aces and got two streets of value (turn & river) from 55.

Preflop and on the flop i'm ahead of his betting range. If i shove flop i wont be doing too too good against his calling range (not a lot of draws, just a FD). Is better to raise small and hope he shoves FD and some random junk? I decided to call flop and call any turn to let him barrel again. I'm not sure about the turn, but i can see him barreling a lot of clubs, pair + draws etc and if i call turn i'm committed so i decided to shove. Does it make sense?

Thanks.

No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($157.50)
MP ($153.95)
CO ($37.72)
Hero (Button) ($100)
SB ($132.20)
BB ($224.45)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J, K
3 folds, Hero bets $3, 1 fold, BB raises $9, Hero calls $7

Flop: ($20.50) 2, 8, K (2 players)
BB bets $15, Hero calls $15

Turn: ($50.50) 4 (2 players)
BB bets $25.25, Hero raises $75 (All-In), BB calls $49.75

River: ($200.50) 9 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $200.50

4b/f preflop to 25$ is better then calling imho especially with your nitty image.

Flatting KJo is not bad against an insanely light 3bettor, but its probably the bottom of your range. As it is, flop is tough to play because you are on the bottom of your range. And obviously turn makes it harder.

raising flop getting it in is probably best, because u dont hit this flop much and he shove club draws.

when he bets 15i18 on flop, then 25i48 on the turn, i perceive this as big time strength (ie:AxAc, AcKx, flush)

Grunch ...

I like a pre-flop 4bet to like $22 - $23 and fold to a shove.

Isn't 4betting PF turning our hand into a bluff? It makes our hand super easy to play but the guy was 3betting hands like 36s OOP pf and barreling relentlessly so KJ in position should be a good spot to flat. Wouldn't we rather 4bet bluff A9, A8 and similar junk hands?

Can we raise the flop to see where we're at?

I think this is still a fold pf until you see the range he is 3betting and how kj does against said range (oftentimes it has huge reverse implied odd and will get you in a lot of trouble). If I called pre I'd prob either get it in on the flop by small-raise/calling or call then fold turn. I don't like the shove on the turn really

Well if he had been getting crushed with him i see no wrong in 4b/folding broadway blockers.

Yes.

I agree with the people saying 4b fold. This hand is at the bottom of our flatting 3b range and we have a block to kings and jacks so it's less likely he is 3b us for value with JJ , AJ, KK, AK. I prob 4b to 24-25 and fold to a shove.

Gay raise flop to like 38 / call it off.

4betting preflop is exactly turning our hand into a bluff, but its being suggested mainly because we're holding some blockers vs AK, KK, JJ.

its a nice line to take since being in a 3bet pot with KJo is going to be pretty ****ty in most situations. as played id rather get it in on the flop then on the flush turn...

Thanks for all the input, but before we let the thread die i have one final question. If we had KQ i guess everyone would be ok with the PF call, so i don't understand why is KJ so much worse that we would rather 4bet bluff with it than call. Villain had 3c2c and he 3betted 63s before, so he must 3bet suited low cards often and he barrels a lot. I thought that KJ would make often the best TP type hand and i was planning on calling him down lightly with it. Is this a bad plan or was just the board to scary for this plan? Thanks.