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NL100 : JJ 3bet pot. Should I value bet ?

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08-14-2010 , 04:57 PM

lull

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 558

Hi,

Villain is 24/13 over 75 hands.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
SB ($34.75)
BB ($79.18)
UTG ($38.46)
UTG+1 ($39.95)
UTG+2 ($150)
CO ($74.40)
Hero ($50)

Dealt to Hero J

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.50, fold, BB raises to $5, Hero calls $3.50

FLOP ($10.25) T

BB checks, Hero bets $5.50, BB calls $5.50

TURN ($21.25) T

BB checks, Hero bets $10, BB calls $10

RIVER ($41.25) T

BB checks, Hero bets $12, BB calls $12

Should I donk every streets please ?

08-14-2010 , 05:18 PM

riske

veteran

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,493

slightly more on flop/turn, jam river imo.

08-14-2010 , 10:50 PM

ndahlhoff10

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Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 6,224

Quote:

Originally Posted by riske

slightly more on flop/turn, jam river imo.

i agree

08-15-2010 , 12:18 AM

bezzer11

centurion

Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 197

Quote:

Originally Posted by riske

slightly more on flop/turn, jam river imo.

YES!

08-15-2010 , 12:37 AM

Lifeisagrind

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,524

and get called by what?

08-15-2010 , 12:45 AM

saymond

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Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 10,251

check river

you're hoping a guy who probably doesn't 3bet that light has a ten he played this way or tries to soulread with AK

tbqh, he's more likely to have a tarp gone wrong

08-15-2010 , 06:19 AM

lull

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 558

So I should value donk bet flop and turn and check river ?

He had QQ btw.

08-15-2010 , 08:06 AM

wishiewish

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Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 11,219

you can't donkbet in this hand.

08-15-2010 , 08:06 AM

Kalledrengen

old hand

Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,919

I probably check the river. 88 won't call, 99 beats us now. If he can have AT/KT he can probably also occasionally slowplay QQ+

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Donkbet afaik is leading into the pre-flop raiser. Given you are in position your bet is not a "donkbet" but just a bet.

08-15-2010 , 12:20 PM

#10

guids

banned

Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 16,996

Bet flop more, check back turn, nothing you beat is calling the flop and the turn, that raised pre, then checks flop to you on this board

08-15-2010 , 12:57 PM

#11

Into2ndWind

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 4,683

Quote:

Originally Posted by guids

Bet flop more, check back turn, nothing you beat is calling the flop and the turn, that raised pre, then checks flop to you on this board

completely untrue you beat a ton of things he does that with LoL

but this hand probably involves some sort of nit dynamic where his reraise to 5.5 is always top 3% of hands and thus he just has to have it

08-15-2010 , 01:47 PM

#12

wdead

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Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 6,697

Quote:

Originally Posted by riske

slightly more on flop/turn, jam river imo.

Obv this line is for getting stacks in but with this villain and this dynamic I think once you take this line you have filtered out all of his hands worse than JJ. I kind of like OPs small betsizing line against bad nitty villains.

Against someone more aggro or w/e you could play for stacks, but Im not doing it with this guy. Its not like he is hero c/c down w/ 88 or A hi

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