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NL100: herocall? NL100: herocall?

10-31-2008 , 07:56 AM
villain 50/9/AFq 35/WtSD 29 over 30 hands

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($107.35)
MP ($104.05)
CO ($48.90)
Button ($100)
SB ($126.05)
Hero (BB) ($100.90)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A, 10
4 folds, SB calls $0.50, Hero raises to $4, SB calls $3

Flop: ($8) 10, 9, 7 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $6, SB calls $6

Turn: ($20) 4 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $16, SB calls $16

River: ($52) Q (2 players)
SB bets $100.05 (All-In), Hero ?

Under which circumstances can u find a call here? I raised an opencomplete of him an orbit before so sometimes the donks get angry and make some weird bluffs or limp/3bets. What is he repping there? The only things imo are AQ or KJ because every other hand should have raised at least the turn. On the other hand there are so many missed draws he maybe shoves here but as you can see I only played 30 hands with him and sometimes there are players that love to take goofy lines.
10-31-2008 , 08:01 AM
I think he shows up with KJ a lot here...I guess Qxdd is also a possibility, as well as diamonds which miss. I think the spot is marginal at best as I don't think he's bluffing enough to warrant a call.
10-31-2008 , 08:05 AM
Personally, I have learned not to hero call river overbets without a strong read.
10-31-2008 , 09:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dread13
Personally, I have learned not to hero call river overbets without a strong read.
+1.
Wait for a better spot. If it is villain's usual behaviour (to make huge bluff overbets), better spot would certainly appear.
10-31-2008 , 11:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lechero79
I think he shows up with KJ a lot here...I guess Qxdd is also a possibility, as well as diamonds which miss. I think the spot is marginal at best as I don't think he's bluffing enough to warrant a call.
KJdd is the only KJ that c/c two streets IMO

this is prob a fold barring some read as already said I think you see J8s a decent amount here and like badly played 2pair and missed diamonds.
10-31-2008 , 12:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by monkeymaps
KJdd is the only KJ that c/c two streets IMO
I'd agree with you if this was a Tag, but it's a 59/9 or whatever. Double belly buster + 2 overs is the nuts to them.

This is an easy fold.
10-31-2008 , 12:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dread13
Personally, I have learned not to hero call river overbets without a strong read.
+2, great post, I have figured this one out on my own as well, just never verbalized it (or posted it_
10-31-2008 , 01:14 PM
okay how do you think of his line when he maybe has sth like 66? I think it's a really nice move because even sets may find a fold here without a ton of history. It's obvious that hero wants to protect his hand and when the gutshot misses and that river comes you can rep a bunch of strong hands.
10-31-2008 , 01:18 PM
fold no herocall here
10-31-2008 , 01:22 PM
dump it. This is the nuts (or what this type of villain considers the nuts) almost always. It's pretty much the equivalent of getting Zeeboed the turn.
10-31-2008 , 01:50 PM
calling here is high -EV
10-31-2008 , 01:53 PM
1. no odds
2. no sence
3. no valiue
4. no chance that he bluff shoves here
5.he reps a draw all streets and his draw got there

= fold

      
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