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08-25-2010 , 01:05 PM

jacopastorius

grinder

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 409

UTG is a fish. Raises lots of hand from any position and on postflop tends to call cheap bets with gutshot middle pairs.

UTG: $120.65
Hero (CO): $102.36
BTN: $26.88
SB: $90.80
BB: $103.01

Pre Flop: ($0.60) Hero is CO with AA
UTG raises to $ 3, Hero raises to $ 9, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls $ 6.

FLOP: ($18)
Qs 8d 3c

UTG checks, Hero bets $ 9

Is it ok an half pot cbet here trying to getting value from gutshots, middle pairs and hands like 77, 99, TT, JJ?

08-25-2010 , 01:18 PM

CCM

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 6,528

What sort of fish? Calling station? I would tend to go bigger in general since our range is going to me more weighted towards value hands against fishy types.

08-25-2010 , 01:27 PM

jacopastorius

grinder

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 409

Yes he likes to call but is capable of raising strong hands. I was asking myself if in general cbetting half pot is a leak in these spots

08-25-2010 , 01:28 PM

CCM

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 6,528

I'd bet $13 with the info you give

08-25-2010 , 01:40 PM

shad0wslay3r

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 206

If he really does call down middle pair and those PP on boards like that,

well I don't see many fish folding TT JJ there on the flop anyways, I'd bet like $13 as CCM said, if he calls $9 he's probably calling $11-13

08-25-2010 , 01:53 PM

jacopastorius

grinder

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 409

Quote:

Originally Posted by shad0wslay3r

i know he likes to call cheapy bets with such as those hands. I would like to know if betting half pot on similar spots with the intention of extracting value from gutshots and lower pair is a leak

08-25-2010 , 02:05 PM

shad0wslay3r

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 206

the way I see it as a leak is I think your missing value, as he is more than likely to call a 60% bet as he would a 50% pot sized bet, are we on the same page or am I still off

08-25-2010 , 02:17 PM

bilbo-san

Angry Hobbit

Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 11,900

why would he be more likely to call 60% than 50%

I would think his calling frequency is 100% identical

The betsize you choose should be such that you can bet/bet/shove and not have any one of the bets be particularly huge

so like $12/$28/shove or something

08-25-2010 , 06:06 PM

w00t77

adept

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,037

Valuebet this kind of fishes to death in this spot..i'd go 13.50.

And no,i don think cbetting to extract value frm smaller pairs and gutterballs here is a leak.

08-25-2010 , 06:43 PM

#10

daveh07

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,950

C-bet more, his calling range doesn't really change all that much between $9 and like $14. It is better to get bigger bets in on the flop and turn because if he is ******ed enough to call gut shots and stupid draws then he won't call your river bet all that often because most of his **** missed. Also if the river bet is a smaller amount he is more likely to call off his hand with mid pairs.

08-26-2010 , 01:38 AM

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BuddhaMonk187

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 4,475

yep what the others said.. as a general rule, fishes fold more the closer we are to the river, so start building a pot early.. like moneyprinting yo

08-26-2010 , 02:42 AM

#12

AshleyC

veteran

Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,278

Against a station make it $11 pf - as played bet $15 on the flop.

08-26-2010 , 04:01 AM

#13

Devilz

grinder

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 569

If he's a station as you say you might as well bet bigger since he's going to call you either way. $15 sound good.

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