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nl100 AQs 150bb deep, felt gross all the way nl100 AQs 150bb deep, felt gross all the way

01-21-2010 , 05:10 AM
No. Play as played or c/r the flop.
01-21-2010 , 09:55 AM
I have no issue with post-flop play, but a question of pre-flop.

Is it standard to call here pre? My line is normally to either 4-bet bluff or fold this deep.

It's just so sticky when the flop comes Q-high and opponent keeps barreling.
01-21-2010 , 10:03 AM
To answer Bombardir's question.

Quote:
Originally Posted by _JerryD_
I have a rather tight image, so I really don't feel like without dynamics I can profitably 4-bet / call this. Calling 3-bets OOP isn't normally part of my game plan but I did not want to fold either this time...
As I say I don't think it's especially great to call, but 4-bet / folding AQ is imo very, very bad. Even horrible. I would never 4-bet fold such a strong hand (well maybe like extremely deep).
01-21-2010 , 10:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by _JerryD_
As I say I don't think it's especially great to call, but 4-bet / folding AQ is imo very, very bad. Even horrible. I would never 4-bet fold such a strong hand (well maybe like extremely deep).
I could be wrong, but I think 4-bet/folding AQ 150 BB is fine.

I'm not sure which is the best line, but calling pre puts you in such a horrible implied odds spot that I just personally dislike it.

edit: After thinking about it I think calling AQs is fine, but what about AQo?
01-21-2010 , 10:13 AM
I think you are wrong.. But I'm no poker god, all I can say that I don't do it and I am quite sure it's not OK.

I think it's probably OK deeper, like 200bb+, because then it is sort of nut 4-bet bluff hand when it has blockers to AA and QQ and the strongest hand we can still fold to a 5bet. But in normal 150bb circumstances I think it is too strong.

If someone can confirm?
01-21-2010 , 10:15 AM
i really cant see how u could play this any other way.
edit: and yea obv bet any non-spade rivers.
01-21-2010 , 10:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by _JerryD_
I think you are wrong.. But I'm no poker god, all I can say that I don't do it and I am quite sure it's not OK.
I'm pretty sure I can prove you wrong , but don't have a stove at work. Hopefully I'll have some time later today.
01-21-2010 , 11:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by _JerryD_
I hate it. A random hand/pair with a spade is very likely, and he isn't folding any of them.

I like even shoving river more.
I don't know what I was thinking suggesting betting this river. We have some SD value betting river would be pretty awful. I wouldn't mind it with air though....

      
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