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06-12-2010 , 05:05 PM

firefoxmaz11

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Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,692

Villian unknown 1st orbit at the table

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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UTG: $288.45
MP: $100.00
Hero (CO): $100.75
BTN: $104.55
SB: $49.25
BB: $270.30

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is CO with Q

1 fold, MP raises to $3, Hero raises to $11, 3 folds, MP calls $8

Flop: ($23.50) A

(2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $16, MP raises to $32, [color=red]Hero ?

06-12-2010 , 05:10 PM

Subzero_Wins

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You beat nothing other than semi-bluffs.

Your flop sizing is also too big.

06-12-2010 , 05:13 PM

firefoxmaz11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Subzero_Wins

You beat nothing other than semi-bluffs.

Your flop sizing is also too big.

I was kinda thinking that too ~13 is probably best here?

06-12-2010 , 05:14 PM

peterrr

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i really dislike that 3bet versus unknown there as you 'll be folding to 4bet and AQ plays well in single raise pots in position

06-12-2010 , 05:15 PM

Subzero_Wins

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Quote:

Originally Posted by firefoxmaz11

I was kinda thinking that too ~13 is probably best here?

Yeah around there.

Also 3-bet PF is bad as already pointed out. If I do 3-bet it though I doubt I'm folding but I guess since you posted this hand you probably should not be 3-betting PF and probably should be folding postflop.

06-12-2010 , 05:25 PM

Machew

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Agree with above posters about flatting pre vs an unknown, but as played I'm calling flop and probably not folding to further betting.

06-12-2010 , 05:26 PM

gotnonick

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Subzero_Wins

You beat nothing other than semi-bluffs but villan is not semibluffing with a minCh-r

Your flop sizing is also too big.

agree with this, and also think that 3bet pre vs unknown is bad unless your unknowns flat a ton of 3bets or make it +EV to 3bet/shove

edit: i changed my mind about folding but i still do think that flop size is big and that villan has no semibluffs, given that the only hands that beat us are AJ and 66 and villan probably slowplays them most of the time this is some random spazz a ton and his Ch-minr tells us that he's not a reg so he can be doing this with any Ax. so some% of Ax+a good % of spazz= call. shoving would be really bad tho

Last edited by gotnonick; 06-12-2010 at 05:36 PM.

06-12-2010 , 06:57 PM

firefoxmaz11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gotnonick

Calling pretty much commits us though so i think we have to make our decision on the flop

06-12-2010 , 07:55 PM

sgxou

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do you guys tailor your bet sizing on the flop on flop texture or do you bet a standard amount (~60% pot) irrespective of the flop cards. on this flop i think betsizing is fine, since there are flush/straight draws out which we want to charge.

i agree that this is a bad 3betting hand (as is AJ for that matter) as dominated hands call (AK) and you come into these reverse domination spots postflop.

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