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[NL100] A9s c/shove with middle pair

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01-05-2010 , 01:22 PM

wodka88

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 277

Villian is 18/15 over 50 hands no special reads, hadnt called a 3bet yet and just 3bet once in 18 hands ....att to steal 35%

I thought I would let him bluff his KQ/AQ hands and c/shove because I have decent equity...looking back he has many sets in his range so I'm not so sure about this one anymore..what would you do?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (BB) ($98)
UTG ($106)
MP ($49.10)
CO ($109.60)
Button ($106.05)
SB ($139.05)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9

, A

3 folds, Button bets $3, 1 fold, Hero raises to $11, Button calls $8

Flop: ($22.50) 10

, 7

, 9

(2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $14, Hero raises to $87 (All-In)

01-05-2010 , 03:07 PM

gobao

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 3,976

So u are "protecting" against 3outs??? U do get this is gonna get called by better only

01-05-2010 , 03:09 PM

Gaszzzz

veteran

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,935

whats wrong with c/c?

01-05-2010 , 03:16 PM

PardoG

veteran

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,939

okay so, I don't mind your 3 bet from teh BB so much, but when he flats you I think you need to take him somewhat seriously given stats.

On the flop i'd prolly check call, I dont know about leading out here on this flop...maybe others can comment on that....i mean I don't think i'd check raise here let alone C raise all in, you are just asking to be snapped off by sets, and i think you get called with JJ/QQ as well

01-05-2010 , 03:17 PM

gobao

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 3,976

Also fellas what types of villain is it most profitable to 3-bet Axs?

01-05-2010 , 03:22 PM

PardoG

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Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,939

Quote:

Also fellas what types of villain is it most profitable to 3-bet Axs?

good point

01-05-2010 , 03:30 PM

Into2ndWind

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 4,683

Quote:

Originally Posted by wodka88

, A

3 folds, Button bets $3, 1 fold, Hero raises to $11, Button calls $8

Flop: ($22.50) 10

, 7

, 9

(2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $14, Hero raises to $87 (All-In)

it really depends on his defending range and everything.

this is a board that a lot of people will fire when checked to, but i think he has too many value hands here for it to be a great spot

01-05-2010 , 03:34 PM

wodka88

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 277

Quote:

Originally Posted by gobao

Also fellas what types of villain is it most profitable to 3-bet Axs?

Are you saying that 3betting Axs oop is horrible against any villian?

01-05-2010 , 03:54 PM

J-Lo

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,678

Quote:

Originally Posted by wodka88

Are you saying that 3betting Axs oop is horrible against any villian?

You lose alot of value vs a guy who is stealing 35% of the time. Don't be afraid to play Axs OOP in a steal situation.

The more I read the more I notice people are 3 betting for the sake of 3 betting. 3 betting is great, most people have a hard time playing vs 3 bettors. But there are more profitable lines, but they require more planning/thinking.

Disclaimer: I'm a NL $25 fish who has yet to do the math or figure out how to beat people who 3 bet 8+% of the time. Damn it, it is frustrating when I 4 bet push w/ JJ and the 10% 3bettor wakes up w/ AA.

01-05-2010 , 04:00 PM

#10

jFearxx

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 242

3-betting is so cooooooooooooooooooooooooool

01-05-2010 , 04:16 PM

#11

shpanko

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 13,924

You definitely picked the completely wrong villain to 3-bet here

01-05-2010 , 05:08 PM

#12

s7v0

newbie

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 20

shoving all in here its a sign of weakness dude.. y dun jz check/call n c what happens at the turn.. 1st

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