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Imbum ($200)
myah108 ($1,120)
Ha4aJlbHuk ($304)
MMP4673528 ($194)
TurnJunk ($200)
POKERIREIMA5 ($397)

TurnJunk posts (SB) $1

Dealt to Hero (POKERIREIMA555) 9K

fold, fold, TurnJunk calls $1, POKERIREIMA5555 raises to $9, fold, fold, TurnJunk calls $7,

FLOP ($21) K78

check, POKERIREIMA5555 bets $16, TurnJunk raises to $48, POKERIREIMA5555 calls $32,

TURN ($117) K783

TurnJunk bets $100, HERO?

Villain is 17/10/2 over 315 hands, raise cbet 18%. Hero is taggy and had just stacked some guy with AK on K9x board.

Here villain had SB posted (was sitting out or something), he completed it on the CO and called my iso which I'm pretty sure he doesn't do with 77 or 88 or AK, KQ (he does raise 14% of his hands on the CO).

Who folds flop, who folds here? It's a really narrow range maaan

Its a turbo muck on the flop.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

4,620 games 0.005 secs 924,000 games/sec

Board: 8c Kd 7d 3c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 44.199% 44.20% 00.00% 2042 0.00 { K9o }
Hand 1: 55.801% 55.80% 00.00% 2578 0.00 { Ad8d, K8s-K7s, JdTd, Td9d, Td8d, 9d8d, 87s, 8d6d, 6d5d }


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You forgot sets, AK and AA.
And to discount draws due to betsizing.
And I said "flop".

Well yeah it is against a nit but when I was playing the hand my HUD was messing around and I thought the guy was spewier/looser. But still meh turn spot.

If u call the flop against someone on this scenario do u shove this turn to this bet?

Id def fold turn as played.

Who the hell complete-calls pocket pairs and AK on the CO? Wtf. Maybe a 51/4 type of guy but I'm just having a hard time putting these to his range.

Yeah I understand my equity sucks on the flop.

What in his betsizing makes you want to discount draws??

edit: Actually my equity on the flop is still 40%

Ok so I do understand that nits are nits and so on but these one sentence replies are really starting to get to me. Is the only reason for folding the fact that villain is a seemingly terrible straightforward nit or is there something else? Even when he's repping such a tiny amount of hands after the pf action?

Isn't my hand basically the same as AA? I guess that's a fold as well?

Not being an *******, just had a tilt session for a change and would like to hear some constructive feedback.

Ok, I misread again, lets remove AA. AK is certainly possible.
Its 3x. Draws are usually bigger, looking for more FE.

Fair enough, it's mainly the fact that Im not sure what hands a nit c/r flop and bets $100 into $120 with on turn that you beat. Not really any deep level thinking here tbh which I thought would be pretty obv.

So if the nit bet 60-70 on the turn you would be less inclined to fold? Do nits even fire this turn with their combo draws ever? That turn betsize is terrible with any hand for the nit... **** I hate nits.

I didn't really need any deep analysis, I just wanted some math or something to back up folding. How much would you weight a nits range towards made hands (that all beat me obv) instead of combo draws? 2:1 or even 3:1?

I dunno, I hate nits too lol. I couldn't tell you what they're thinking. You could say the turn bet sizing looks more drawy, but it could be a set thinking you have FD. 60 or 70 on turn looks more valuey to me. I just always seem to make the wrong decisions against nits so Im prob not the one to ask, but my unsolicited advice of the day is fold turn.