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NL 200 - "TPTK" BTN vs Blind - What's our line? NL 200 - "TPTK" BTN vs Blind - What's our line?

07-24-2008 , 03:38 PM
Villain is 22/17/5 reg i assume over 70 hands

Full Tilt Poker $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players
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BB: $135.35
CO: $224.15
BTN: $213.95
Hero (SB): $208.60

Pre Flop: Hero is SB with K Q
1 fold, BTN raises to $7, Hero raises to $23, 1 fold, BTN calls $16

Flop: ($48.00) 2 2 Q (2 players)
Hero bets $28, BTN calls $28

Turn: ($104.00) 6 (2 players)
Hero...

What's your default line turn + beyond?

and what's your play if...

Hero Checks - BTN bets $50
07-24-2008 , 03:43 PM
would b/f turn.

and bet more on flop.

IF you check and button bets 50... may c/c not sure
07-24-2008 , 03:50 PM
do not b/f. you're playing for stacks.

Your villain is aggro. The flop didn't bring much. He floated you and you have TP2K. Check to him and then raise him all in.
07-24-2008 , 03:51 PM
Also, if this spot has you stumped, don't 3-bet KQo from OOP.
07-24-2008 , 03:52 PM
i like a check to induce a bluff, and then go ahead and crai
lots of hands are floating you here
07-24-2008 , 03:54 PM
are we not concerned with FD? Please help me
07-24-2008 , 03:59 PM
gaybet turn to make river an easy shove, or c/rai to maximise against floats.
also: b/f turn is the worst line imaginable.
07-24-2008 , 04:00 PM
Why would you be concerned with FD?
07-24-2008 , 04:01 PM
Quote:
are we not concerned with FD? Please help me
Checking to a flushdraw is the downside. However, villain will only have the flush draw a small percentage, and if he does, he'll only hit it a small percentage of the time as well.

Depending on history between these players/hero's image, villain probably puts hero on a fairly wide range of cards considering it is button vs blind. The flop is a good one to float, and relatively good also for pocket pairs to continue with caution. The best way to get value out of those sorts of hands against an aggro opponent is to give him some rope.

b/f is just not an option with the size of the pot holding top pair good kicker.
07-24-2008 , 04:04 PM
thanks
07-24-2008 , 04:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michaelson
Also, if this spot has you stumped, don't 3-bet KQo from OOP.
Not stumped - Question becomes maximizing value vs most of his range.

Considering villains range is incredibly tilted toward: Mid pairs / air / FDs checking turn is obv.

Question becomes what's your line after villain bets turn. Most of his range is drawing to less than 5 outs. CRAI vs C/C and lead river

B/F is not an option given stack sizes.
07-24-2008 , 04:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Swann'sWay
would b/f turn.

and bet more on flop.

IF you check and button bets 50... may c/c not sure

if you ever bet fold this turn you should just cut off your clicky finger because that is ******ed.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Michaelson
do not b/f. you're playing for stacks.

Your villain is aggro. The flop didn't bring much. He floated you and you have TP2K. Check to him and then raise him all in.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michaelson
Also, if this spot has you stumped, don't 3-bet KQo from OOP.

pretty much what michaelson said imo
07-24-2008 , 04:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Swann'sWay
would b/call turn.
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07-24-2008 , 04:46 PM
Super easy crai. Villain will bet his FD if he has one, thinking you're giving up w/ Ax/TT.
07-24-2008 , 04:48 PM
c/rai, some % of the time b/c
07-24-2008 , 06:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michaelson
Also, if this spot has you stumped, don't 3-bet KQo from OOP.
Amen, brother. This is about the best flop you can reasonable expect to get with KQo.

Both b/call and c/r are good, which one is better depends on how the villain with play a pair less than queens which is most of his range.

Actually, a bet of around $30 might be good here, make him spin out with 77, if you think he'll check behind with it.

      
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