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12-11-2016 , 07:52 AM
[converted_hand][hand_history]Prima, $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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SB: $26.47 (132.4 bb)
BB: $14.87 (74.4 bb)
MP: $58.42 (292.1 bb)
Hero (CO): $32.23 (161.2 bb)
BTN: $26.07 (130.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 8 8
MP folds, Hero raises to $0.60, BTN folds, SB raises to $1.90, BB folds, Hero calls $1.30

Flop: ($4) T 2 9 (2 players)
SB bets $2, Hero calls $2

Turn: ($8) T (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($8) J (2 players)
SB bets $4.60, Hero raises to $11.80, SB calls $7.20

vs reg what do you think about it ?
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12-12-2016 , 10:53 AM
Pre is std obv.

I'm folding flop without a heart, plenty of better hands to call with.

Would also fold river as played, I prefer to bluff with something like AQ which has better blockers to their value hands.
12-12-2016 , 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by nastoprocent
vs reg what do you think about it ?
This is a good line for value because nobody ever does it and it's because it makes no sense as a value hand.
12-12-2016 , 10:47 PM
I dont know why you wouldnt bet ott if you want to bluff. I dont think your play is bad though and you might get a herofold.

Im folding otf btw. Why you didnt ?
12-12-2016 , 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by .isolated
This is a good line for value because nobody ever does it and it's because it makes no sense as a value hand.
meh. KQ makes some sense if you think you have too many hearts/diamonds/QJ/87s on the turn to include all KQ. JJ also makes a bit of sense, as does 99/22/TT/T9s. These don't play like this everytime but would expect some combinations to end up on the river

not that I like the play, I would shove as all raise sizings on the river and pretty much choose only some combinations of K9s and Q9s without diamonds or hearts
12-13-2016 , 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by brian scalabrine
meh. KQ makes some sense if you think you have too many hearts/diamonds/QJ/87s on the turn to include all KQ. JJ also makes a bit of sense, as does 99/22/TT/T9s. These don't play like this everytime but would expect some combinations to end up on the river

not that I like the play, I would shove as all raise sizings on the river and pretty much choose only some combinations of K9s and Q9s without diamonds or hearts
I'll be honest and say that I have no idea what any of that has to do with what you quoted me saying and I've read it like 10 times...
12-13-2016 , 05:58 AM
what value do we rep with this bluff otr? I fold river
12-13-2016 , 06:04 AM
I might actually take this line with 99, TT since people will expect you to raise those OTF because they're not often cbetting this board with air.

AP, I fold river and don't like the raise
12-13-2016 , 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by .isolated
I'll be honest and say that I have no idea what any of that has to do with what you quoted me saying and I've read it like 10 times...
I'm listing value hands that make sense?
12-13-2016 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by brian scalabrine
I'm listing value hands that make sense?
But we're likely betting turn with nearly every hand listed so I just discounted them. I'm still confused why hearts/diamonds/qj is listed if they're value hands as flushes miss and QJ is a clear river call or fold.
12-13-2016 , 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by .isolated
But we're likely betting turn with nearly every hand listed so I just discounted them. I'm still confused why hearts/diamonds/qj is listed if they're value hands as flushes miss and QJ is a clear river call or fold.
Sorry my message wasn't clear. I meant that if we think we our turn betting range is too draw heavy relative to our value hands we may choose to check KQ (maybe others don't, but I might decide to). If so, I would have KQ on the river
12-13-2016 , 06:24 PM
why'd you raise his bet on the turn? why are you playing 20 when you should be playing 2.
12-13-2016 , 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by brian scalabrine
Sorry my message wasn't clear. I meant that if we think we our turn betting range is too draw heavy relative to our value hands we may choose to check KQ (maybe others don't, but I might decide to). If so, I would have KQ on the river
That makes more sense. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by fishinfornuts
why are you playing 20 when you should be playing 2.
Some people have more money to waste than others. That's really not for you to say. Way to be a d-bag though.
12-17-2016 , 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by fishinfornuts
why'd you raise his bet on the turn? why are you playing 20 when you should be playing 2.
ffs he didn't raise the turn, he raised the river. quality post from a quality player i bet.
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