Villain was a donk, stats 53/17 over 120 hands. Cbet 85%, didn't like folding post or pre that much. Hadn't seen him limp-reraise before or make any spazzy moves on big pots. His 1/2 pot bets dont tell too much, he had made these earlier with bottom pair+gutshot and also a flopped boat on a JJ4 board (stacked my JQs on a 4x turn with quads... sick hand, and that's how he had doubled up b4).

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SB ($99.80)
BB ($100)
UTG ($212)
UTG+1 ($126)
CO ($102)
Hero ($178)

Dealt to Hero QQ

call, fold, fold, Hero raises to $6, fold, fold, UTG raises to $19.50, call,

FLOP ($40.50) J73

UTG bets $20.25, Hero calls $20.25,

TURN ($81) J739

UTG bets $40.50, Hero ?

What's your turnplay? And plans for the river?

Wait for a better spot. FOLD

Call and call. What better spot? Here is an example of a hand versus a villain with similar stats:


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BTN: $393.80
Hero (SB): $581.20
BB: $238.00
UTG: $194.00
CO: $200.00

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is SB with K A
UTG raises to $8, 1 fold, BTN raises to $18, Hero raises to $50, 2 folds, BTN calls $32

Flop: ($110.00) K 9 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $62, BTN raises to $124, Hero calls $62

Turn: ($358.00) T (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $142, Hero raises to $284, BTN calls $77.80 all in

River: ($797.60) 7 (2 players - 1 is all in)



Please don't fold.

Call Turn, Insta-Call most rivers...soul read A/K river...

he could be valuetowning worse here/bluffing a lot so let him continue to do so...

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SB ($99.80)
BB ($100)
UTG ($212)
UTG+1 ($126)
CO ($102)
Hero ($178)

Dealt to Hero QQ

call, fold, fold, Hero raises to $6, fold, fold, UTG raises to $19.50, call,

FLOP ($40.50) J73

UTG bets $20.25, Hero calls $20.25,

TURN ($81) J739

UTG bets $40.50, Hero calls $40.50,

RIVER ($162) J739A

UTG bets $131, Hero

yuck. most of the time i actually 4bet pre, would like to know if that's spewy or not.

this river bet is kinda confusing me. its so big and the only hand I can think of him doing this with is AK or JJ. eh i'd proooooooobably fold now but it's pretty close. you could always flip a coin i suppose.

edit: or AA obv. this river is still confusing me because unless hes braindead it skews his range so freakin much towards nuts or air. i think i fold

cawl

Well, the good thing about this river is that we now know KK isn't in his range, and since the turn completed the rainbow I really doubt AK plays like this too. So, he's either ******ed, or has set. Since ******ation is implied by his stats, I think I call here.

Tough riv spot cause it could of possibly hit a ton of hands. Im tossing this in the muck.

Please give specific examples of hand that got there? Yes, AJ owns us here, but AJ is a pretty small part of his range, he did limp reraise after all. Also I don't think there are too many AK's in his range. If the turn put out a flush draw, and then villain fired out on the river, then it would be easier to fold because villain would double barrel the suited aces that picked up the FD. But that's not the case. I'm really having difficulty putting villain on a hand here, and therefore, I am calling here.

As for results, I folded the river cos I beat only a total bluff and KJ and some weird overplayed stuff. I'm not putting a donk on a pure bluff 200bb deep with this action with no reads on that matter. Still kind of interested to see what he had... he would have prolly shown a bluff, but I dunno.

Isn't folding turn > folding river, cause the A changes nothing, it just makes it obvious he isn't bluffing a lot.

Probably, that's why I asked for the turn action instead of the river action first.

Not sure i agree with this, the guys a donk and can easily show up with AK/AQ given his betsizing.

His stats speeks for them self. Im playing the hand exactly like DaGrunt and wait for a better spot

no, I'd say his air hands contain mostly Ax hands. So river changes a lot and dagrunt needs to fold.

I think either fold flop (because your definitely going to be facing two barrells; you get to the turn like your surprised he's betting), or call down as long as no ace hits. I only say this because it sounds like in all his previous hands if he got involved in a pot he never really let up.

and this hand does depend somewhat on how often your raising his limps. I see these tards limp reraise pocket pairs a ton. So I guess thats part of their air range too (for some odd reason). Not believing he has the balls to fire that third barrel with air.

I'd be more inclined to fold flop because he's up on the session and I find fish turtle up if they are up money (usually turtle up then leave a few hands later). Whereas if he's been stacked a few times or just been losing his chips steadily he may go for glory.