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01-07-2010 , 02:19 PM

skibbel

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SB: $100.00
BB: $50.00
Hero (BTN): $101.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN with Q

Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6.50) Q

(2 players)
BB bets $2, Hero raises to $9, BB raises to $16, Hero raises to $98 all in, BB has $31 behind

Villian unkown, his first hand. standard?

01-07-2010 , 02:21 PM

Into2ndWind

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Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 4,683

50 bbs can't go wrong really i think here. 100bbs i would just call his rr and not overplay it.

01-07-2010 , 02:30 PM

lifes3ps

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Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,694

i know its obvious in this spot, but its better to take this line w/ 2nd pr than top pair+fd as youre not dominated and have 2 more outs usualy

01-07-2010 , 02:30 PM

Nitrub

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I would just call flop

01-07-2010 , 02:31 PM

Into2ndWind

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nitrub

I would just call flop

really?

01-07-2010 , 02:37 PM

lifes3ps

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youre in fine shape v the nut flush draw or nut flushdraw+gutter and dominate J9/JTss, i see no reason to flat

01-07-2010 , 02:44 PM

BuddhaMonk187

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this is totally standard

01-07-2010 , 02:47 PM

JustToast

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it's perfect, don't change a thing

01-07-2010 , 03:02 PM

Nitrub

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Into2ndWind

really?

eeeh I misread hand. If we didnt have a pair then I would call but having pair and he will have so many worse draws this is std for sure

01-07-2010 , 03:08 PM

#10

FlyLikeABird

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Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,679

If you had like, the K4ss or just a naked flush draw I like just calling, with this particular hand though shoving seems standard.

01-07-2010 , 03:10 PM

#11

BuddhaMonk187

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whats the difference here between K4ss and Q4ss?? villain is not taking this line with QT or something.. but i agree that with tp+fd we have more sd value and dont need to flip...

01-07-2010 , 03:47 PM

#12

forbin89

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Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 52

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuddhaMonk187

whats the difference here between K4ss and Q4ss?? villain is not taking this line with QT or something.. but i agree that with tp+fd we have more sd value and dont need to flip...

The difference is if we get called by our shove with K4ss, he often has a better king than us so we lose those outs, whereas if we have Q4ss we have the extra 2 queen outs as well.

01-07-2010 , 05:39 PM

#13

JustToast

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Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,251

i am not understanding how we can have the king of spades when it is, i believe, on the board.

01-07-2010 , 05:40 PM

#14

darkconcept

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nice avatar skibble, but this hand isn't very thread worthy

but now ya know!

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