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Middle Pair on Wet Board - 1/2 Live Middle Pair on Wet Board - 1/2 Live

11-14-2016 , 01:01 PM
Hero Stack: 120
V Stack: 280

V limps nearly every hand and limp calls most raises.

UTG limps, V in MP limps, Hero on BTN has JcJs and raises to $15. Both limpers call.

Flop is 4d5d8c. V2 checks and V leads for 20.

Soooo, at this point I try to figure out what he is on. V plays nearly all hands so his range right now probably looks like this: 44, 55, 88, 99, and possibly TT. His non paired range is probably 45, 78, 89, 8T, and any hand that has 8d and any other diamond.

I exclude other flush draws unless he is being creative and betting his draws which I don't feel like that is what he is doing just because he is fishy. If he has 8 of diamonds plus another diamond, then he can bet with top pair and still have a draw if he is beat right now.

Do I raise here or call and evaluate the turn?
11-14-2016 , 09:24 PM
So your stack is $105? I think I'm just shoving here. If we were deeper I'd be more inclined to flat.

Also, if these guys are as loose as you suggest villains range will probably be much wider. Fish that limp every hand make all sorts of crazy bets and can be quite unpredictable. Any 8x, any two diamonds - I don't think you should rule these out. maybe even 97, 75, 65, 64, etc...
11-14-2016 , 09:35 PM
there is ~70 in the middle, you have 105 left. Easy shove.
11-14-2016 , 10:54 PM
Alright, I keep thinking a shove for more than what's in the pot is wrong.

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