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01-03-2013 , 06:46 PM

thegrinder12

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Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15226031

Seat 2: Player2 ( $100.50 USD ) - VPIP: 20, PFR: 16, 3B: 8, AF: 3,2, Hands: 221
Seat 3: Player3 ( $160.13 USD ) - VPIP: 32, PFR: 28, 3B: 12, AF: 3,3, Hands: 130
Seat 4: Player4 ( $106.92 USD ) - VPIP: 24, PFR: 20, 3B: 7, AF: 4,0, Hands: 118
Seat 5: Player5 ( $100.00 USD ) - VPIP: 23, PFR: 23, 3B: 50, AF: 0,0, Hands: 13
Seat 6: Hero ( $100.00 USD ) - VPIP: 21, PFR: 17, 3B: 8, AF:

Preflop: Hero is BB with K

2 folds, BTN raises to $3, SB raises to $9

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Do you like flatting more than cold 4 betting? KQs plays nice IP vs sb. If BU calls we play 3w with a nice hand and our position is okay.

01-03-2013 , 06:51 PM

Izanagi

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01-03-2013 , 07:11 PM

thegrinder12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Izanagi

can you explain why you don't like calling?

01-03-2013 , 07:16 PM

Nirwanda

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Yeah, 4bet

01-03-2013 , 08:44 PM

Izanagi

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thegrinder12

can you explain why you don't like calling?

I'd rather not play a 3b pot oop 3 way since it's likely bu will come along. Also, it's not like you have a lot of reads on both players and you will often have to play fit or fold with a hand that has a lot of reverse implied odds.

I think it's just much better turning our hand into a bluff with blockers and if he happens to call, we have position and a hand that has great playability.

01-04-2013 , 12:16 AM

bigmattie123

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4 betting to me personally is ridiculous. The least someone in this pot is going to have after an open bet and three bet is atleast a mid pocket pair. All we are playing at the moment is high suited connectors in position. I dont hate a call but depending on the read of my oppenents I could fold here easily as well. If we 4 bet I dont think were going to get anyone out atm and we can easily get 5 bet with 10's j's or better. Answer is cold call or fold in my opinion.

01-04-2013 , 12:25 AM

PeoplesElbow

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we do block kK QQ AK AQ when we 4bet bluff here. if there every was a position do 4bet bluff it would be here

01-12-2013 , 04:31 AM

daveh07

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4-bet all day. We have blockers and if we flat the button is more likely to come over the top. We look pretty strong and have a decently playable hand postflop if they decide to flat our 4-bet as well. Flatting isn't horrible but I think you will show more long term profit just cold 4-betting here as long as you havn't gotten too out of line recently.

01-13-2013 , 03:47 AM

Jever

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ez fold, um

01-13-2013 , 04:11 AM

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Gonira

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call is not horrible, fold is not horrible, 4bet looks better

01-13-2013 , 04:17 AM

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Jever

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonira

call is not horrible,

yes it is

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