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KQ makes 2 pair on river, but facing pot sized donkbet

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03-26-2008 , 01:13 PM

LOwrestling2001

adept

Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 948

Villain just sat down at table so no reads. Pretty much only JT beats me here, but with a potsized bet am i good often enough here?

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

CO: $86.45
BTN: $159.75
SB: $100.00
BB: $99.00
Hero (UTG): $117.65
MP: $109.15

Pre Flop: Hero is UTG with K

Hero raises to $3.50, 4 folds, BB calls $2.50

Flop: ($7.50) Q

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $6, BB calls $6

Turn: ($19.50) 2

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $14, BB calls $14

River: ($47.50) K

(2 players)
BB bets $45, Hero ???

03-26-2008 , 01:20 PM

optionsguy

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Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,123

meh, i'd probably call and make a note

03-26-2008 , 01:20 PM

nathanielt

centurion

Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 171

I think you can fold there. Seems like the only hand you could really be beating is another two pair. A set or two pair should have put a raise in already, and his action previously looks like a draw, JT is the only draw out there on the flop. He could have hit K9, but that seems unlikely...

03-26-2008 , 01:24 PM

callme

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Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,676

JT thats what i first thought when i saw the hand. But i also see a lot of people chasing there gutshots down (he obv. chases something) and when they hit TP fire out. So beside JT you have to account for KJ, KT maybe K9 and of course KQ as a split.

I just dont tend to fold these kind of hands at this level where i have to pinpoint my opponent on one particular hand since they suprise me soooo often...

03-26-2008 , 01:43 PM

kyro

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 30,354

I'd push before I folded.

03-26-2008 , 02:10 PM

rberg

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,428

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyro

I'd push before I folded.

03-26-2008 , 03:30 PM

nathanielt

centurion

Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 171

What do you think he has that makes pushing a good play? I guess you can argue that it's only 30 more to him, so he has to call a lot of hands that you have beat.

I think it's pretty close to calling and folding, but I think he has JT here more often than he has two pair, or a badly played KJ, KT.

Obviously this is player dependent, because some this is a pretty easy fold or shove, but against an unknown, I'd be more inclined to call than shove.

03-26-2008 , 03:36 PM

Benzooor

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 181

Call for shore. Fold if you have a small penis

03-26-2008 , 03:39 PM

Skleice

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,277

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benzooor

Call for shore. Fold if you have a small penis

+1 lol

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