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KK as overpair against a nit KK as overpair against a nit

07-02-2008 , 08:40 AM
Villain is running 16/13/8.8 over 450 hands
I'm ahead of his raising range on the flop but if he decides to call, his calling range has me crushed. What line is best here? I'm not sure if he stacks off w AJ and I don't know if he plays his draws in this way.
The only read I have on him says that he coldcalled 2 raises w AA OTB and played agressively postflop.

Full Tilt Poker $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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BTN: $405.60
SB: $204.00
BB: $200.00
Hero (UTG): $221.00
CO: $80.00

Pre Flop: Hero is UTG with K K
Hero raises to $9, 1 fold, BTN calls $9, 2 folds

Flop: ($21.00) J 3 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $17, BTN raises to $50, Hero...
07-02-2008 , 08:52 AM
wat, either ship now or call and crai or smt
07-02-2008 , 08:54 AM
is this the same villain in your other thread where you have AK? i believe you're ahead of his range here...
07-02-2008 , 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Tempel
wat, either ship now or call and crai or smt
yeah, that's what I'm asking about ship now or take turn?
07-02-2008 , 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Xbangbang07X
is this the same villain in your other thread where you have AK? i believe you're ahead of his range here...
yeah
07-02-2008 , 08:55 AM
I'm getting it in on the flop.
07-02-2008 , 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 1fineday
yeah, that's what I'm asking about ship now or take turn?
his af indicates that he could bet turn, but theres alot of bad cards to kill your action or your hand.. so i guess i could ship flop, but im not in love with that either really.
07-02-2008 , 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 1fineday
I'm ahead of his raising range on the flop but if he decides to call, his calling range has me crushed. What line is best here? I'm not sure if he stacks off w AJ and I don't know if he plays his draws in this way.
Crappy spot with an overpair out of position on that board for exactly the reasons you mentioned. I can't really think of any good options. There are two clubs out there but otherwise it's a pretty dry board. I think I would call and reevaluate. I'm not sure how bad giving him a free card is if we check to him on the turn. But given stack sizes I'm not sure calling and leading a safe turn is much better than 3betting now since he can shove with a set (and we are committed) or fold a flush draw.

If he takes a free card on a blank turn and the river blanks too you could bet/fold small to get value from AJ or maybe worse if he thinks you missed a draw yourself. If he bets again on a blank turn I think it's crai or fold based on his turn aggression factor.

If a club peels off I probably go into c/f mode since he'll probably just check down anything we beat.

      
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