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KK in multiway pot, bet this dangerous turn? KK in multiway pot, bet this dangerous turn?

07-10-2008 , 11:50 AM
Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP: $30.35
Hero (CO): $98.50
BTN: $100.00
SB: $177.60
BB: $72.30
UTG: $137.80

Pre Flop: Hero is CO with K K
1 fold, MP calls $1, Hero raises to $4.50, BTN calls $4.50, SB calls $4, BB calls $3.50, MP calls $3.50

Flop: ($22.50) 4 Q J (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $18, BTN folds, SB calls $18, BB calls $18, MP folds

Turn: ($76.50) T (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($76.50) 8 (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $25


I didnt bet this turn because I thought that somebody must have a set or two pair. Should I be betting to protect against draws though?

And this river? Is it an obvious fold?
07-10-2008 , 12:23 PM
By checking the turn you're missing out on a lot of value, QK, AQ, AJ, T9 KJ, are all calling. I'd probably just bet call the turn.

No one's done anything to make you think they have a two pair or set.
07-10-2008 , 12:29 PM
I think I would check behind here a lot but then usually feel pretty bad when I called a blank river bet and beat AQ, KJdd or something.

Betting the turn just makes the rest of the hand much easier to play considering your implied odds on a river A or 9 really arent that good vs like QJ, plus 100nl people can be really nitty/passive about 2prs on boards like this so you might actually get check called by a better hand allowing you too suck out/take a free showdown.
07-10-2008 , 01:45 PM
bet/fold turn for sure. This will get value from a lot of worse hands and might also get you a free showdown especially vs fish who love to check their rivered straights out of position.
07-10-2008 , 01:50 PM
Bet turn in these spots, watch your winrate rise.
07-10-2008 , 02:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by willyc
bet/fold turn for sure. This will get value from a lot of worse hands and might also get you a free showdown especially vs fish who love to check their rivered straights out of position.
How do we bet/fold this with 100bb stack?

What's a good bet on the turn? We a PSB remaining... just shove?
07-10-2008 , 02:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bubsy27
I didnt bet this turn because I thought that somebody must have a set or two pair. Should I be betting to protect against draws though?
They almost never have a set (given the flop calls on a drawy board) and you have great equity against two pair. Bet.
07-10-2008 , 02:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by craiggerz
How do we bet/fold this with 100bb stack?

What's a good bet on the turn? We a PSB remaining... just shove?
bet $45 on the turn and call a shove. the board is getting drawy and there is a big chance you have the best hand.

as played, just call

Last edited by TPTK77; 07-10-2008 at 02:56 PM.
07-10-2008 , 02:53 PM
bet turn for sure

      
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