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03-28-2011 , 02:52 PM
PartyGaming - $2 NL - Holdem - 12 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Vilain is a reg 18/14 /2.4 he raise flop : 8%


I really dont know how to handle this kind of hands. I have a really loose aggro image and i think he woul 3bet me with 1010+ even if i am UTG.

How would you play this hand? should i fold the flop against this kind of player? as played turn easy fold?

is his range not really narrow ( 55 or 44) can i really fold?




INVALID POS: $77.59
INVALID POS: $123.35
INVALID POS: $210.00
INVALID POS: $93.45
Hero (UTG): $259.77
UTG+1: $206.80

INVALID POS posts SB $1.00, INVALID POS posts BB $2.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $3.00) Hero has 8 8

Hero raises to $6.00, INVALID POS calls $6.00, fold, fold, fold, fold

Flop: ($15.00, 2 players) 3 5 4
Hero bets $10.00, INVALID POS raises to $28.00, Hero calls $18.00

Turn: ($71.00, 2 players) 3
Hero checks, INVALID POS bets $54.00, Hero ?
03-28-2011 , 03:05 PM
fold the flop probably, depending.
03-28-2011 , 03:05 PM
Fold flop. You are rarely in good shape equity wise and playing future streets OOP profitably is going to be close to impossible without extensive information on his tendencies. Also, your percieved range here contains a lot of Ax (gutterball+2 overs) and overpairs, so he probably doesn't expect you to fold very often.
03-28-2011 , 03:12 PM
Villain has nitty stats pf and is only raising 8% postflop, so i dont think that he
raises this flop with air. TT,JJ (those combos should be definately in his calling range), would not raise the flop, AA,KK should 3bet pre, so i think his flop raising
range is sets,+good draws.

If i give him a range of 33-55 AsTs-AsQs,KsJs,KsQs;KsTs (smaller Axs combos wont call pf, AK would 3bet) you have only 33% equity so you should fold this
flop (also keep in mind that you raneg is quite transparent as an overpair when you call, so villain can play perfectly vs you).

On the turn the 3c removes some sets combos, and you are ahead vs draws
now, so calling flop and folding this turn is burning money. But
i am not so sure if villain fires with all draws again. And if give him only the nfd
you still have only 42% equity and one street oop left to play, so in a vacuum
turn is also a fold, while it is imo closer than the flop.
03-28-2011 , 03:51 PM
thanks for the replies

yes i agree a lot of Fds will checkback the turn. but i have a problem with your math why is it 33% ?
03-28-2011 , 04:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by laie7
thanks for the replies

yes i agree a lot of Fds will checkback the turn. but i have a problem with your math why is it 33% ?
tbh vs 33-55 AsTs-AsQs,KsJs,KsQs;KsTs it is even worse:
14,850 games 0.005 secs 2,970,000 games/sec

Board: 3d 5s 4s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 23.771% 22.45% 01.32% 3334 196.00 { 8d8h }
Hand 1: 76.229% 74.91% 01.32% 11124 196.00 { 55-33, AsQs, AsJs, AsTs, KsQs, KsJs, KsTs }


If i add 66 you have 34%.

      
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