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03-21-2010 , 05:55 AM
BB in this hand was a huge fish, so that's the main reason of my call pf. Villain is playing 20/15/3. Flop c bet 73, turn 53, river 67. He's def the type of player that has the balls to empty the clip when needed, not a complete spewtard(spews only from time to time). Can't say there's a lot of history between us this session. Not sure if he expects me to hero call him on the river with less than a J.
Is it a call on the river?
$200.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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UTG: $200.00
MP: $197.00
CO: $264.15
Hero (BTN): $404.10
SB: $238.80
BB: $327.65

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BTN with J Q
1 fold, MP raises to $7, 1 fold, Hero calls $7, 2 folds

Flop: ($17.00) 2 2 J (2 players)
MP bets $12.75, Hero calls $12.75

Turn: ($42.50) 7 (2 players)
MP bets $28.00, Hero calls $28

River: ($98.50) 2 (2 players)
MP bets $73.87, Hero calls $73.87
03-21-2010 , 06:18 AM
fold?

hes almost never bluffing here and you just chop in the best case
03-21-2010 , 06:43 AM
By your description, he seems competent, so he would know this is a terrible turn and river to barrel. I think its close, but I'm a station, so the correct play is prob fold.
03-21-2010 , 07:42 AM
You should always fold that turn imo. Seems like he's putting you on top pair good/top kicker and just going for fat value.

You shouldn't look at his cbet frequences and say "OMG this MUST be one of those times he's 3barreling a horrible board with no equity"
03-21-2010 , 07:47 AM
Yeh i pass, if villains any good he knows the turn and river are bad to barrel and you hand really is down as Jx.

Best case you get a chop, but i think a lot of the time your toast
03-21-2010 , 08:17 AM
he is bluffing like 0%, just stove it and see if u got the %.
03-21-2010 , 10:18 AM
river is a clear fold to me but is turn a fold too?
lets say Hero floats a decent % of the times IP, would that make turn a call, i mean even if turn card is not good to barrel i see many reggs just barrel any card when they cbet boards where they expect to be floated.
thanks
03-21-2010 , 11:40 AM
if Villain doesnt expect us to fold.. hes not betting.. this is no high stakes level war
03-21-2010 , 12:46 PM
villain would also go for a c/c line with some Jacks on the turn

when he bets the turn and the river it is clear he wants value of Jx
03-21-2010 , 12:51 PM
think i fold preflop

      
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