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I got Kings, and villain donks to me on river

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10-21-2008 , 11:50 AM

n4rf

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Full Tilt Poker $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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BTN: $200.00
SB: $217.00
BB: $359.35
UTG: $239.35
Hero (CO): $308.25

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is CO with K

1 fold, Hero raises to $6, 1 fold, SB calls $5, 1 fold

Flop: ($14.00) 2

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $10, SB calls $10

Turn: ($34.00) 9

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $26, SB calls $26

River: ($86.00) 8

(2 players)
SB bets $61

25/20/1.5 - seen him do some pretty crazy **** PF when he was unknown such as shoving over my squeeze with KJ

What are my options?

10-21-2008 , 11:58 AM

YehBaby

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 632

call................

10-21-2008 , 12:00 PM

McManus

centurion

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 184

I fold because i don't think he expect you to fold. (your range is strong and the flush draw miss).

10-21-2008 , 12:01 PM

JasonB85

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 664

Call, if he has an 8.

I think you may want to bet a little bigger on the flop (like $12) and on the turn (like $30). Its not a huge difference, but if you bet $12 on the flop the pot becomes $38 so you can bet like $35 on the turn.

10-21-2008 , 12:20 PM

$atori

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 212

Call I guess, there are very few hands that beat you and none of them make much sense the way he played it.

10-21-2008 , 12:52 PM

kylephilly

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I feel like I call in this spot way too often and it's one of my leaks.

10-21-2008 , 01:33 PM

SPSpewy

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,360

I snap call, he´s repping a narrow range.
I call and many times expect to see any kind of overplayed hands, stupid bluffs and busted draws.
I dont believe villain calls 2 streets with botton pair (in that heavy drawy board) and sets/str8 always will raise turn.

10-21-2008 , 04:26 PM

bsball8806

bff with birdman

Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 47,384

Snapcall this I think we're ahead more often than you think

10-21-2008 , 04:35 PM

DoubleD

veteran

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I thin this is a snap fold any competent villain will assume their line to get looked up superlight esp. since FD didn't get there

10-21-2008 , 04:38 PM

#10

Windmasta

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,743

pretty easy call i think your good at least 40% of the time here. No point in raising here imo since you only get called by worse. He could easily be vbetting J9 or something.

10-21-2008 , 04:40 PM

#11

DoubleD

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Actually scratch my post. I just realized that because the flush draw didn't get there, he can value bet a whole bunch of jacks here.

I need sleep.

10-21-2008 , 04:57 PM

#12

Hail Eris

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,319

I'd need a read that he's pretty good to fold here, not a read that shoves KJ over a squeeze with no history. As far as him valuebetting a Jack, that happens about never here.

10-21-2008 , 08:56 PM

#13

Lego05

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I'd be calling.

And probably note-taking cause he played this weird.

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