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I get 5 bet deep and wanna shove

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02-06-2009 , 08:26 PM

I Am Lazy

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Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 755

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 3 Players
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BB: $307.85
BTN: $70.95
Hero (SB): $215.30

Pre-Flop: 9

dealt to Hero (SB)
BTN folds, Hero raises to $4, BB raises to $12, Hero raises to $30, BB raises to $74

Villain is 26/21 with a 12.3% 3bet over 500 hands. 13% from BB.
His postflop aggression is 6.1 so obv very aggro. Seems like a very solid thinking aggro reg.

Isn't his range like AA or a bluff? I think KK he 5bets bigger, same with AK. QQ, JJ, TT I think he either calls or raises bigger.

02-06-2009 , 08:32 PM

Dave Coulier

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3,699

I really dont think anyone at NL100 puts 74bb in and folds to a shove. This is AA/KK almost always. I think you're just looking for an excuse to gamble

02-06-2009 , 08:43 PM

theflyingcow

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,211

Err...to be honest, I can't think of 3 times over the course of 200k hands at .50/1 where somebody 5-bet BLUFFED me. This looks like it has FPS written all over it.

02-06-2009 , 08:45 PM

IcarusJam

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Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,139

unless you have a note he can 5 bet bluff, fold.

02-06-2009 , 08:48 PM

lvnoffsklskyb

centurion

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 148

Shoving over this at these stakes is lighting money on fire imo.

02-06-2009 , 08:52 PM

lvnoffsklskyb

centurion

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 148

Also, even if he is a good, solid thinking reg like you described him, it's impossible to know if he thinks the same of you. If he's smart at all he knows a 4 bet at these stakes is a bluff hardly ever and probably won't have a 5 bet bluff even in his arsenal unless he feels like he has a soul read.

02-06-2009 , 08:56 PM

skibbel

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theflyingcow

Err...to be honest, I can't think of 3 times over the course of 200k hands at .50/1 where somebody 5-bet BLUFFED me. This looks like it has FPS written all over it.

i could post 100 examples... probably depends on style

02-07-2009 , 12:52 AM

Buff Disciple

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Yeah, he is bluffing here rarely. I think this is like AA almost always, maybe KK. In bvb he isn't folding anything real that he 5bet.

02-07-2009 , 01:23 AM

orange

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dont rly know why you 4-bet to begin with...

02-07-2009 , 01:27 AM

#10

ikestoys

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lulz NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ty moving on.

if you want to battle, flat, and then make moves.

02-07-2009 , 05:46 AM

#11

Grue

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I like but only because I played with you yesterday and you owned me

02-07-2009 , 07:27 AM

#12

rsxpunk

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Quote:

Originally Posted by orange

dont rly know why you 4-bet to begin with...

ya wtf flat and play poker

02-07-2009 , 07:29 AM

#13

corsakh

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I don't like the 4bet much. You gonna get flatted 200 deep in position BvB a lot. Call preflop is not that bad if you have an edge postflop.

02-07-2009 , 08:31 AM

#14

riske

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If villain thinks at all he'll realise he's stuck to the pot at this point.

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