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i feel like i butchered this hand....

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01-21-2008 , 11:22 AM

bubaloo

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 5,681

villain is 54/28/2.8 over about 150 hands, no reads.

Pacific Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $201.5
Button: $189.15
Hero: $293.94
BB: $705.47

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is SB with A

2 folds, Hero raises to $7, BB calls.

Flop: 3

($14, 2 players)
Hero bets $12, BB raises to $26, Hero calls.

Turn: Q

($66, 2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $40, Hero calls.

River: J

($146, 2 players)
Hero checks, BB is all-in $631.47, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $631.47 returned to BB.

i had about $220 behind

should i be b/3betting flop vs this villain?
if i call turn, do i have to call river? (turn call felt like a waste and didnt seem to accomplish much)

01-21-2008 , 11:30 AM

xeanatic

adept

Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 816

3bet flop and be happy to get it in if he has a 3 bad luck.
He's very loose and aggro so we are way ahead of his range

01-21-2008 , 11:30 AM

Delphi

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 618

Looks horrible. I'd reraise flop to 95 and call shove. As played at least get it in on the turn or call river. Against that villain I don't see a fold. You even beat QJ and only loose to a 3 or a set (which he doesn't have as he would 3-bet JJ+ pre).
If he rivered a straight its a cooler and result of weaktight flop and turn.

01-21-2008 , 11:33 AM

dfhwy7856

Guest

Posts: n/a

You do understand something about hand ranges, right? Do you have any clue how large the villain's range is on the flop and how damn good you're doing against it? 3-bet flop, checkraise turn, whatever, just get the money in. Turn is kind of bad since KQ beats us, but with those stats I think he might 3bet it preflop.

01-21-2008 , 11:44 AM

Anycall

adept

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 824

I would 3bet flop and call shove. As played though, I would fold river.

01-21-2008 , 11:52 AM

sh58

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,335

why 3bet the flop. i would let him keep firing. we 3bet the flop he folds 87s or whatever

i like your line. call turn, call river. unlucky if he has you beat

01-21-2008 , 11:58 AM

Xanta

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,696

I see no reason to 3bet the flop but I think a turn c/r might be good. If not, call turn call river against this guy. His line def is a 3 a lot of the time though.

01-21-2008 , 12:03 PM

spivey

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 9,751

I'm guessing you went for the turn c/r but then slowed down on this turn card. Since he's so loose and so agressive, I'd still like a c/r and get rest in on river.

01-21-2008 , 12:43 PM

bubaloo

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 5,681

Quote:

Originally Posted by spivey

I'm guessing you went for the turn c/r but then slowed down on this turn card. Since he's so loose and so agressive, I'd still like a c/r and get rest in on river.

yeah this was exactly what happened. i was planning to c/r any turn, but saw the Q and just froze (youre right that i still should have c/r). after i flat turn i was planning on calling any river, but the J came and i froze again and mucked b/c i was freezing and couldnt think straight

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