I'm sweating Trikkur and we're disagreeing about this hand. I feel you're getting called almost every time with this small flop raise. Furthermore I would bet more on the turn because he has a pair and a draw so often and will call everytime. Makes it much better on the river per stack and potsizes.


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BTN: $258.55
SB: $100
BB: $100
UTG: $68.30
Hero (CO): $115.50

Pre-Flop: J K dealt to Hero (CO)
BB folds, UTG calls $1, Hero raises to $4.50, 2 folds, UTG calls $3.50

Flop: ($10.50) 9 A T (2 Players)
UTG bets $3, Hero raises to $9, UTG calls $6

Turn: ($28.50) Q (2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $15, UTG calls $15

River: ($58.50) 4 (2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $42


Villain is quite a fish btw. He smoothcalled and shoved a squeeze earlier with A2s for like 65bbs.

I typically love the flop reraise with a draw, but I don't think a gutshot is good enough to do it with, especially when one of your outs is counterfeited.

Calling is better IMO.

I think if you raise flop it's gotta be 12-13.. turn bet is kinda small compared to the river bet size.. I think you should bet like 22/42 if you're trying to get value.

Raising the flop is pretty standard. Obviously not something we should always do, but something we should do frequently against aggressive fishy players. So often they donk flops like this with 22+, any draw, and any piece of the board. They fold a ton of this range to a raise.

Turn bet should be substantially larger for value and protection

Nielsio,

I think that the raise size on the flop doesn't really matter against fishy players who donkbet. I don't think they fold much more hands for a pot sized raise than they do for this, and you just risk more money.

bet BIGGER

raising flop to $9 in this spot is horrible

Raise more on the flop and turn. My reasoning for that is that you're gonna have a hard time getting more money from him on the river with a missed draw/weak anything/heart so it's on the turn you need to get the money in. And bigger on the flop because you have king high and want him to fold.

EDIT: And bigger turnbet for protection too, obv.

EDIT2: I raise this flop 99% of the time.

He only had like 35 dollars on the river, the 42 was just to put him all in.

BTW - the A2s hand didn't come till later.

Oh, I missed stack size, I'd still say 22/shove is better.

Yea, I wanted to find an amount that wasn't too much that he would fold since thats a scary card for him, but not too little that I couldn't get it in on the river. I normally would bet like 18-22 here, but I thought he would c/r AI if I bet 15 and it still made it like 55 on river with him having 37 so it's not hard to get it in on river regardless.

Different villain iirc.

You said this at the bottom of your post

Villain is quite a fish btw. He smoothcalled and shoved a squeeze earlier with A2s for like 65bbs.


But he didn't do this until later in the session. So it's not knowledge that we had at the time, thus i don't want people considering it for any reason when making the decision on this hand.

Ah ok.

bigger on flop, bigger on turn, shove river

edit: ESPECIALLY if villain is a fish

I was going to write pretty much the same thing myself so i'll just quote this instead

raise bigger on the flop, except for that it is standard because of his shortstack

that flop raise size isn't good -- bet way more on the turn..

a fish that's donking this flop is probably never folding to a raise, and you have a gutshot..so suppose i'd prefer to just call

Your flop play is a bluff and it has 0 FE on such a drawy flop. Make it bigger.

Your turn bet is a valuebet and his calling range is huge, make it bigger.

I think everyone is still ignoring his stack size. The flop raise tells him that he's playing for his stack. The turn bet is kinda small, but not that bad. And the river is actually an overshove of his stack size.

the only problem i have with this is that he's a huge fish so he doesnt think "omg i have to play for my stack" he's thinking "wtf only $6 i have KQ gutshot CAWL!"

flop is nh imo but wtf on the turn? bet more seriously...like 23-24. like u say, sets up river for nice valueshove given stack sizes.

if he bet bigger this hand would be standardly standard