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02-01-2012 , 09:37 AM

HoldUrHeadUp

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Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 132

opp fish 53/20
agg freq 48 39 35
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($28.70)
BB ($59.50)
UTG ($21.50)
UTG+1 ($50)
CO ($18)
Hero ($91.15)

Dealt to Hero K

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $2.50, fold, BB calls $1.50

FLOP ($5.50) 4

BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB calls $4

TURN ($13.50) 4

BB checks, Hero bets $9, BB calls $9

RIVER ($31.50) 4

BB checks, Hero bets $21, BB raises to $44 (AI), Hero folds

BB wins $70.50

02-01-2012 , 09:43 AM

ComplexP

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Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,285

probably the right choice on the river, but I dislike your sizing otherwise. More everywhere, especially pre and on the turn, you want to play a big pot vs a 53/20 not a small pot.

Look at river if he just calls, you can't get his stack even though it was only 60bbs to begin with.

02-01-2012 , 11:04 AM

lejean80

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Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,865

wow, this is NL100 right? The biggest fish on earth has a 60 bb stack only and you fail at getting his whole stack in by the river ...

bet more preflop, bet more on flop, bet more on turn, shove river, don't worry, easy game.

02-02-2012 , 04:37 AM

Izanagi

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Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 2,336

Bet more pre, flop, turn, then shove river. As played bet smaller on the river to give yourself more room to b/f.

02-02-2012 , 05:45 AM

lejean80

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Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,865

Quote:

Originally Posted by Izanagi

As played bet smaller on the river to give yourself more room to b/f.

You can't be serious about this ... are you?

02-02-2012 , 05:58 AM

mmac900

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Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 3,197

Quote:

Originally Posted by lejean80

You can't be serious about this ... are you?

im just as baffled as you!

02-02-2012 , 12:36 PM

filth

adept

Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 897

4.5
12
shove

02-02-2012 , 01:41 PM

udo lattek

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 184

as mentioned: betsizing is bad

River: I call. We need 20ish%, i expect to see a lot of flushes, but these guys have weird 2pairs / other weird worse hands as well.

02-02-2012 , 09:20 PM

Izanagi

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It just sucks when we bet big on the river and have to fold to such a small raise (have to call $23 for a $96 pot). Well that was the thinking behind my statement, but could be totally wrong I guess.

02-02-2012 , 10:02 PM

#10

daveh07

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Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,950

don't bet this small pre when you have bad players in the blinds. Even though I am sure you are opening wider by betting smaller you just don't need to do this. Just play your hands that can make top pair type hands and 3-4x the button. The fish will call with a wide range and you can get the SPR up. As played fold the river.

02-03-2012 , 06:36 AM

#11

FocusIT

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Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 546

I call and lose a bunch but he doesn't have to have worse very often to show a profit.

02-03-2012 , 06:51 AM

#12

lejean80

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Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,865

Quote:

Originally Posted by Izanagi

It just sucks when we bet big on the river and have to fold to such a small raise (have to call $23 for a $96 pot). Well that was the thinking behind my statement, but could be totally wrong I guess.

On the river, we want to extract as much value as we can. The more we bet, the more we win. I don't expect to be check-raised here very often. Sometimes this will happen but it should not influence our value betting in the first place.

I'd say that it is much less of a mistake to always bet $30 and never fold when he shoves, than to bet $20 and always fold to a check-shove.

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