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04-30-2008 , 09:42 AM

KCrow

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 4,383

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

BTN: $98.50
SB: $105.05
BB: $312.75
UTG: $143.75
Hero (MP): $101.50
CO: $103.50

Pre Flop: Hero is MP with 3

1 fold, Hero raises to $3.50, 1 fold, BTN calls $3.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($8.50) 3

(2 players)
Hero bets $7, BTN calls $7

Turn: ($22.50) 4

(2 players)
Hero bets $18, BTN calls $18

River: ($58.50) 2

(2 players)
Hero...........

Villain is 21/11/1.3

I can't b/f the river so is c/c the only option or should I just shove and get looked up by Jx and random two pair hands?

04-30-2008 , 09:44 AM

Eddi

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 6,296

c/f

04-30-2008 , 09:50 AM

Exar_Kun

adept

Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,198

I cant see this type of villain having random two pair hands, however I don't think he has a set either. I check river and will call small bet otherwise fold.

04-30-2008 , 09:59 AM

ntrik

grinder

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 436

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exar_Kun

I cant see this type of villain having random two pair hands, however I don't think he has a set either. I check river and will call small bet otherwise fold.

Seems good to me. The only two pair type hand he could have is 54 and everything else has you beat. If villain has any hand with showdown value he will probably check behind on river (unless hes the type to turn his hand into a bluff). Theres not much value to be extracted on the river here.

04-30-2008 , 09:59 AM

terp

Carnal \ 'Knowledge

Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 14,780

c/f against random tagfish types

04-30-2008 , 08:02 PM

Bulletproof Monk

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 22,217

why cant we bet/fold?

04-30-2008 , 08:14 PM

empyrium

centurion

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 191

i dont think an A is too often in his range here. he either called the flop and turn with a JT, QJ type hand or a fd. he probably wont turn his Jx hands into a bluff so i think c/f is the best play here.

04-30-2008 , 08:23 PM

Bulletproof Monk

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 22,217

you dont think we can get any value from JT or so with like a $18-25 bet?

04-30-2008 , 08:32 PM

empyrium

centurion

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 191

well maybe, but its very very thin. but b/f is probably better than c/c given his betting range has us crushed and he never bluffs here.

04-30-2008 , 10:03 PM

#10

Mike MacIntosh

veteran

Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,155

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bulletproof Monk

why cant we bet/fold?

b/c we will be over representing our hand and every draw pretty much hit. As a result villain will not call with worse enough for a bet to be profitable.

Tbh, I simply c/f this river. Most villains with his stats are simply checking back worse and betting better in this spot.

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