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Flop 2 pair against reg - What next?

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08-04-2010 , 02:18 PM

Oggy_Oggy_88

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Villain is a reg playing 17/15. his cbet appears strong with it being a 3 way pot and he raised in early position.

What's our move?

$100.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: $49.33
UTG: $101.49
MP: $105.60
CO: $10.85
Hero (BTN): $101.50
SB: $220.39

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN with K

1 fold, MP raises to $3, 1 fold, Hero calls $3, SB calls $2.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($10.00) Q

(3 players)
SB checks, MP bets $7.00, [color=red]Hero ???

08-04-2010 , 02:30 PM

n4rf

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I don't like raising here since you sort of overrep your hand with it being 3way. I put KQ and QJ in the same category and we're never raising QJ in this spot.

If you get 3bet here you're put in an extremely ****ty spot.

cawl

08-04-2010 , 02:43 PM

polakpoker4

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Yup I just call as well and call most turns and probably most rivers as long as the flush/T/A don't show up.

08-04-2010 , 02:53 PM

duh

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I call and wait to see a safe turn before thinking about raising

08-04-2010 , 06:54 PM

Oggy_Oggy_88

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ooook, so assuming the turn is a blank and villain bets again - are we just calling or shipping it in??

fwiw i raised the flop (guess that was a mistake). thinking i could get value from AA, maybe a top pair + gutshot hand like AK.. worse 2 pairs like KJ and QJ, and also maybe nut flush draw.

08-04-2010 , 08:50 PM

n4rf

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probably calling turn again - his range is going to be quite strong to DB in that spot

08-04-2010 , 09:17 PM

j_allstar

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everything but calling seems like spew. you want sb to overcall worse, you want to keep OR in with worse, and you even have a blocker. Also, raising here looks really strong, and you have close to the bottom of your raising range

08-05-2010 , 02:31 AM

BuddhaMonk187

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I like calling down. Should be a good spot for him to barrell away.

08-05-2010 , 03:23 AM

Lemay002

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BuddhaMonk187

I like calling down. Should be a good spot for him to barrell away.

I don't think that that is a profitable spot to double barrel or triple barrel @ 25nl.

Imo calling turn blank is std since he could def be betting worst hand for value. I don't like raising.

08-05-2010 , 03:52 AM

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digeri

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Callng is better than raising against most I think.

08-05-2010 , 04:47 AM

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BuddhaMonk187

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemay002

I don't think that that is a profitable spot to double barrel or triple barrel @ 25nl.

Imo calling turn blank is std since he could def be betting worst hand for value. I don't like raising.

Well imo our barrelling range is way way stronger than most villains flop or turn calling range imo given pre and drawheavyness of the board Thats why i like to keep KQ in..

08-05-2010 , 05:07 AM

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Lemay002

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BuddhaMonk187

Well imo our barrelling range is way way stronger than most villains flop or turn calling range imo given pre and drawheavyness of the board Thats why i like to keep KQ in..

Sorry misunderstood your post, though you meant barreling with air

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