Villain is a complete unknown. I assume he is a fish as he was 1tabling, and ive never seen him before. Third hand at this table (resat hence deep stacks). Pre is kinda wtf but I wanted to iso/didnt mind building a pot IP. I flat flop donk because player behind is a whale. Unsure of what to do on turn when he pots it. I think its raise or fold because board is getting pretty wet, and we dont want a river scare card to come and stop him from paying us off if we are ahead. I think we can reduce the likelihood of 67 because not many fish raise that UTG, though that is that hand that runs through my mind. Can we just fold here and wait for a better spot? I think folding here is better than calling turn/folding river on a blank

why would you ever fold?

either call/call or raise now. I call sometimes when fish are spaz potting because they tend to continue to spaz pot until they don't have any money left. Or just get it in. Folding here is criminal. And don't 3bet 33 vs a fish, it plays too poorly the ~90% of the time you don't flop a set.

Dont you think it plays better IP 3betting than it does not 3betting? Because we can usually take it down with a cbet whereas IP we are usually just folding

he's a fish, and fish don't like to fold to cbets. 33 is also the worst hand you can have to be bluff cbetting with because it has poor equity on any board without a set and has the least chance of improving on the turn or river

pre is fine. I agree with what keyser is saying, but there's value in just 3betting him a ton and tilting him + fryke is right about cbetting and even barreling tons of boards. generally, pre is a flat, but like good players say, 'pre is whatever' for a good reason.

if I did 3bet, I'd never fold on this texture as played. shoving is def the play unless you have a read pot = really weak and that'll he'll follow up with a river shove which you're committed to close-eyes-calling.

why 3bet/iso with a hand that is awesome multiway and plays well due to implied odds? 3betting pre is terrible.

if u think u want to iso and take down the pot with a cbet vs fish, then do it with any marginal hand in that spot then. if u see most of ur value comin from him c/f flop, then 3b him with even like K5o 64s, etc.

u have a set vs a fish just get the money in. Just call/call or just shove if u think he doesnt believe u. this is really a standard spot vs a fish. If ur scared to even stack off vs a fish here, u might be best off not playing deep stacked

I also don't really understand the 3b pre. You are ip with a small pair and you can even stand a squeeze from another player when you and villain are both very deep. It also invites other people. As played you can't really go wrong imo. I'd shove before the board gets too messed up, but I don't think calling is bad.

he could fold like he wants to.

Obviously didnt fold. Just didnt want to bias people towards what I wanted to here, so thought I would suggest fold. The strongly worded opinions against it means I at least avoided the wrong decision

Folding here is a big joke.

call or raise whatever...just don't fold.

ummm what...fold and wait for a better spot? NO!

His most likely holding here is an overpair IMO. Fish slow play sets in these spots. Regardless i am never folding and all i am thinking about is how to get the money in. Considering he never folds TT here i am shoving 100%.

raise turn small is pretty sweet imo, possible just click it back.

This is good because we dont need to worry about balance vs this guy.

Fold imo. A2 and 67 as well as all other sets beat you. There are no 2pair combos he can have and by 3betting pre and calling flop, you represent a big overpair so he isn't betting a hand like TT here imo. He could have Aces though.

I mean .. if you had the read that he's a spewy fish, then of course call him down. He's just an unknown and these spewy fishes who bluff into so many people are rare.

3betting preflop is pretty strange. Don't like this at all.