No real read on the villain besides the fact that I 3bet a CO opener with AA few hands ago and he 4bet w/QQ from the blinds and called my shove. He's somewhat 26/18.

Anyway, what the heck is going on on the river? First of all I really made this HUGE raise on the turn because his line, especially his river insta bet doesn't make any sense unless he has the nuts. Also I really wanted to make my raise look like a bluff and make him call with any pair.

BUT THEN....he goes over the top, of course he's too weak to go into "he's bluffing me, I am gonna rebluff him". So the question is: do we call this and if we do, what do we beat?

Anyone raises the turn btw?

$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($169.34)
UTG+1 ($115.00)
CO ($179.65)
Hero ($209.90)
SB ($99.00)
BB ($97.50)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is BTN 2 2
3 folds, Hero raises to $3.50, 1 fold, BB calls $2.50

Flop: 5 J 5 ($7.50, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: 2 ($7.50, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $5, BB calls $5

River: 7 ($17.50, 2 players)
BB bets $15, Hero raises to $55, BB raises to $89, $34 to Hero ($146.4)?

Snap call, you shouldn't (and can't) even contemplate folding. You beat badly played 5x hands, A5, 56,45 etc. You can't exactly fold for another $34.

wtf, it's some freakin A5 or 56 or 77, who cares! get it in. Also, I bet flop all day

I don't understand the flop check. This flop is perfect for a cbet.

Shove the river. If he has 77 so be it.

yeah he could have a boat but you still have to go all in.

I didn't bet the flop because I knew he had some type of pp which isn't folding anyway and he's probably gonna c/r me.

SO anyone thinks we should raise the turn/raise less on the river?

if you really think that's his range just call river. Man he'll go crazy if he has 5555 and you just call the river.

bah you can't call river tho really. Could raise smaller and fold to a shove then but its pretty hard to find a magic number.

No, really you can NEVER fold this.

Is a really dry flop. Bet it, and if he calls with an underpair make a note and 2barrel him whenever you can find a decent spot.
If he likes to check/raise dry flops as a bluff, float his raise and bet the turn.

I would raise less on the river because I want him to call with his marginal hands, not because I'm not willing to get it in.

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If you cbet 100% of the time heads up with position, you probably aren't far from optimal. So I definitely bet the flop.

Turn is fine.

I just call here. Does he do this with just a 5. Maybe. Hey, I am weak-tight what can I say.

SMS

looking at the raise as whether you can get away if he 3bets is looking at it from the wrong end btw.

You want to maximize value the 90%+ times your good, not worry about him having a better hand that other 10% (I doubt its even that high).

As played I would call the river. Like the above poster mentioned, I would raise less on the river for the same reason being that we want a call if he has marginal holdings.

Looking at this particular hand, he could be holding A5, 45, 56, 77, 55 and maybe 57 (again this is all dependent on how often he's calling your pre-flop raises). However, we usually see a lot of poor players do the check flop, check turn, and then all of a sudden magically have a hand on the river to bet. I'm leaning towards the villian holding a 5 of some sort.

So what did he have?

-gremlin

You do realize this post is completely ******ed? What do you want us to say? Yeah, he has a boat..fold?

You put his entire range as just pocket pairs, because he flatted from the big blind and checked the flop? This is terrible thinking. Bet the flop all day. Only problem with c.betting is getting check raise bluffed off the flop.

I think the call i fine as you need to be ahead such a small amount of the time that the call is automatic

i thought you were going to be 300bbs deep, snap call this

really looks like 77 to me, but lol @ folding for $34.

Snap call and then say "lol bluffaments" if you win and say "thanks for not taking the rest of my stack" if you lose.

The reason for posting this is because I was wondering if this could be compared to something similar like you got AA on KKK27 board and someone shoves over the top because you just beat nothing. Also it's different in my case but I really wonder if he ever goes over the top with just trips.

I guess they're sayin call

did you call and did he have 77?

Yes or yes?

The KKK27 hand is completely different, this is an incredibly easy call. People ABSOLUTELY play trips like this at small stakes.