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10-10-2009 , 05:30 PM
Hey guys!

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $2(BB) Replayer
SB ($486)
Hero ($404)
UTG ($337)
UTG+1 ($79.98)
CO ($226)
BTN ($264)

Dealt to Hero Q J

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $6, fold, Hero calls $4

FLOP ($13) 9 J 4

Hero checks, BTN bets $8, Hero calls $8

TURN ($29) 9 J 4 2

Hero ?

villian is probably reg, break even after 1.5k hands
18 / 15 / 2.3 turn AF
10-10-2009 , 05:36 PM
You should consider donkbetting flop.

as played i would c/r but would like to hear thoughts about leading.
10-10-2009 , 06:06 PM
Donking or check calling flop is fine.

Turn I would like a lead a lot if you have a solid image because you get super light peels from hands that would otherwise check back. The only downside is that you will sometimes get into a sticky rover spot when called and a heart falls but overall I like a lead here for like 24
10-10-2009 , 06:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nitrub
You should consider donkbetting flop.

as played i would c/r but would like to hear thoughts about leading.
If you lead you're probably going to be really unbalanced. I dont really see what else you can lead that would c-c flop.....I guess you could throw some str8 draws in there.

C/r is probably best here, but you could think about donking flop so you can barrel turn more often
10-10-2009 , 06:17 PM
if he isnt cbetting this flop light you can lead a ton of hands from gutshots(KQ and w/e) to sets/draws.

if he is cbetting a lot then c/r flop obv becomes better.
10-10-2009 , 06:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jtringer
If you lead you're probably going to be really unbalanced. I dont really see what else you can lead that would c-c flop.....I guess you could throw some str8 draws in there.
Your standard perceived range here when you lead the turn is pocket pairs and some Jx type hands that don't want to give a free card to overcards with hearts, straight draws, and flushes. while check raising and leading are both viable options on the turn, the reason why i like leading more is it takes away the ability for villain to check back with inifinite odds his weakish draws which adds a lot to our overall equity in this pot.
10-10-2009 , 08:25 PM
I think that when I have a top pair blocker and a flush draw blockers then he has nothing most of the time. I let him bluff on me on this flop and hopefully I would get some value on the later streets without throwing out his weak hands, hoping for 2nd barrel. Also I'm a very aggressive player. I'd check raise or donkbet this flop with a flush draw almost every time. Most of the regs here are aware of that and I wanted to play another line to balance my range. That was my way of thinking

Hero checks, BTN bets $20, Hero raises to $62, BTN raises to $250 (AI), Hero calls $188

RIVER ($529) 9 J 4 2 3

BTN shows A K
(Pre 61%, Flop 17.6%, Turn 15.9%)

Hero shows Q J
(Pre 39%, Flop 82.4%, Turn 84.1%)

Hero wins $526

What do you think about the check raise? Wasn't it too smallish? Right after I pushed the 'raise' button I was so pissed that I raised that small, but when he pushed I instacalled, but was a bit confused about his holdings
10-11-2009 , 02:50 AM
your hand history doesn't work.
10-11-2009 , 08:42 AM
wat? it works perfectly for me

      
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