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BANKROLL HELP - SHOULD I BE FREAKING OUT? AM I DOING OK? BANKROLL HELP - SHOULD I BE FREAKING OUT? AM I DOING OK?

06-29-2014 , 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ScubaSteve1134
i.e. Running into set over set on the flop, and tonight alone I put a guy on AK or AQ and I was correct. I shoved with 8s thinking I had the best hand (which I did), and he flopped an ace. Final hand of the evening I was short stacked with 102, and it's raised to 10 with two callers. Comes back to me I shove. Call. Fold. Call. My AK vs AQ vs A10. Low cards on the flop. Brick on the turn. 10 on the river, felting me. Other races such as my AQ vs QQ, flopping an A only to get one-outered by a Q on the river.
Hold'em Simulation ?
164,381,184 trials (Exhaustive)
Hand Equity Wins Ties
88 54.49% 89,258,268 626,304
AK 45.51% 74,496,612 626,304

sigh

"putting someone on" one or two hands is just guessing. having <55% is hardly a lock. did you even know that your expectation getting it in preflop is just +$20? $400 * 55% less your own stack is just $20.

you're underrolled, you have the wrong mentality and you may not even be a winner...
06-30-2014 , 10:15 PM
07-01-2014 , 04:47 AM
perfect
07-01-2014 , 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Check_The_Nuts
You've played like 6k hands. Breakeven stretches over that many hands is super common. I used to break even once a month out of 12 months (about 40k hand stretch). I just don't think its possible to be a pro live player without running hot because its just impossible to get enough hands in. But whatever, I'm sure people are live pros...
The edges in SSNL live poker are so ridiculous that even after the stupid amount of rake as long as you run reasonably well you can make a decent clip.
07-08-2014 , 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by dodgybob
The edges in SSNL live poker are so ridiculous that even after the stupid amount of rake as long as you run reasonably well you can make a decent clip.
My friend who plays live professionaly has never read a poker book in his life. Live poker is vastly different from online poker. Stacks get deeper and reading body manurisms correctly as well as not giving anything away are critical. In live games you have to use a mixed strategy. My friend says he always pops the button pre and does daring bluffs agains weak/tight scared players when he sits down. He then shows bluff. Gets them steaming thinking hes a bully.. Then he tightens up and plays fundamentally sound. After about an hour or two he doubles up and leaves. He only plays like 4 or 5 hours at a time max. It is way easier to make quick money live, players are terrible. Some are drunk and some tell you what they have by the way they behave.
07-08-2014 , 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluntster
It is way easier to make quick money live, players are terrible. Some are drunk and some tell you what they have by the way they behave.
Except you only get to play 30 hands/hour so if you're card dead or run even a little bad you're hating life. What might be a 30 minute downswing playing 8 tables of 1/2 online will last a week live and it will be much more mentally taxing. I sorta played 1/2 live for a living after black friday (was really more just living off savings from online wondering if online would ever comeback) and while it's a super easy game it's hard not to tilt when things are going bad because the lack of opportunities to rostucko make you press things harder than you should. However, I would be more than comfortable playing live 1/2 with a $5600 bankroll. I'd have to run like aids for that not to be enough. But that's just me. I'm used to being under rolled. 1/2 is just too small a game to play for a living imo. Get rolled for 2/5 if you can. The 1/2 game I frequented played more like 2/4 at times with straddles and big raises and such. I could never imagine grinding a normal sized 1/2 game for a living. Kill me.
07-08-2014 , 02:40 PM
I am comfortable playing 1/2 live with a bankroll of 200$.
07-08-2014 , 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BGnight
Except you only get to play 30 hands/hour so if you're card dead or run even a little bad you're hating life. What might be a 30 minute downswing playing 8 tables of 1/2 online will last a week live and it will be much more mentally taxing. I sorta played 1/2 live for a living after black friday (was really more just living off savings from online wondering if online would ever comeback) and while it's a super easy game it's hard not to tilt when things are going bad because the lack of opportunities to rostucko make you press things harder than you should. However, I would be more than comfortable playing live 1/2 with a $5600 bankroll. I'd have to run like aids for that not to be enough. But that's just me. I'm used to being under rolled. 1/2 is just too small a game to play for a living imo. Get rolled for 2/5 if you can. The 1/2 game I frequented played more like 2/4 at times with straddles and big raises and such. I could never imagine grinding a normal sized 1/2 game for a living. Kill me.
Yeah, that's why I don't play live poker any more, unless I just want to get drunk and do it for a laugh with mates. I always found that only getting through 20-30 hands an hour was incredibly tilting when I was trying to take it seriously.
07-08-2014 , 08:45 PM
Ya honestly I would only start taking live seriously at 5/10. Anything less than that is just for fun from time. Would much rather grind 50nl if I had to than grind 1/2 live.

      
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