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01-02-2013 , 05:10 PM

thegrinder12

adept

Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 960

I have problems with hands like KQs/AJs. I 3b like 8-10% in de blinds. If I don't 3b KQs/AJs my 3b range would be verry polorized. So I think I have start 3b those hands also.

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Seat 1: Player1 ( €105.50 EUR ) - VPIP: 16, PFR: 11, 3B: 6, AF: 1,7, Hands: 540
Seat 2: Player2 ( €124.51 EUR ) - VPIP: 26, PFR: 24, 3B: 11, AF: 3,4, Hands: 438
Seat 3: Player3 ( €178.69 EUR ) - VPIP: 20, PFR: 17, 3B: 9, AF: 3,8, Hands: 1704
Seat 4: Player4 ( €102.50 EUR ) - VPIP: 23, PFR: 21, 3B: 11, AF: 4,0, Hands: 281
Seat 5: Hero ( €100.00 EUR ) - VPIP: 21, PFR: 17, 3B: 8, AF: 3,7, Hands: 110669

Preflop: Hero is BB with J

2 folds, BTN raises to $2.50, SB folds

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BU steal 44%
f23b 67%
4b range 3.9%
call 3b 16%

Think he will call with worse hands like TJs QJs KQo/s ATs. But what to do if he 4b?

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Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( $56.55 USD ) - VPIP: 32, PFR: 9, 3B: 2, AF: 2,1, Hands: 825
Seat 3: Player3 ( $99.00 USD ) - VPIP: 23, PFR: 20, 3B: 19, AF: 2,0, Hands: 56
Seat 4: Player4 ( $93.07 USD ) - VPIP: 20, PFR: 17, 3B: 6, AF: 2,9, Hands: 908
Seat 5: Player5 ( $49.14 USD ) - VPIP: 35, PFR: 12, 3B: 9, AF: 1,6, Hands: 94
Seat 6: Hero ( $50.00 USD ) - VPIP: 21, PFR: 17, 3B: 8, AF: 3,7, Hands: 110669

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q

2 folds, BTN raises to $1.50, SB folds

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fold23b 76%(21)
4b range 2.1
calling 14%

Don't think this is a spot to 3b KQs/AJs because he will fold a lot and only 4b with better(4b range seems small right?)

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Hands: 110669
Seat 4: Player4 ( $35.55 USD ) - VPIP: 34, PFR: 20, 3B: 11, AF: 0,6, Hands: 83
Seat 5: Player5 ( $54.17 USD ) - VPIP: 27, PFR: 21, 3B: 6, AF: 1,7, Hands: 121
Seat 6: Player6 ( $59.22 USD ) - VPIP: 21, PFR: 18, 3B: 6, AF: 1,4, Hands: 181

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q

CO folds, BTN raises to $1.25, SB folds

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f23b 0/0

steal 40% on BU.

Do we 3b AJs/KQs?

What is our ''standard'' play in blinds vs BU with AJs or Kqs

01-02-2013 , 06:55 PM

Greco

old hand

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,564

Well, don't fold. Large majority of the time 3bet. Need a good reason to only call

01-02-2013 , 07:11 PM

alphakenny1

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 458

Don't fold those hands against a VERY wide range.

1st hand - I agree, 3bet. He may call with a bunch of stuff that you dominate (KQ, KJ, AT, QJs). If villain 4bets, you fold.

2nd hand - I'd call based on stats. Villain will only 4bet will most likely 4 bet with better.

3rd hand - I can see both sides to calling and 3betting. Calling is ok since you don't know anything about the villain (most likely) and that this is an opportunity to learn about them with a very good hand and you are getting a great price to call. 3betting is also okay since villain probably doesn't know anything about you and if villain calls, most likely AJ, KQs plays well against his 3bet calling range. I would probably just call.

01-02-2013 , 08:37 PM

scared2raise

journeyman

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 398

lol nit poker at it's finest

i call all these hands and play poker

this should be posted in the micros

nobody notices what range you 3b out of the blinds they are too busy clicking buttons as long as you have a decent range overall it doesnt matter

if you cant profitably call hands like AJs against a button steal you have problems

01-02-2013 , 09:22 PM

DTD

veteran

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,326

Well, a 3-bet is standard for all three.

01-02-2013 , 11:29 PM

spiritrockv2

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 224

mmm i would not fold any of them unless it was a misclick.
Mean arguments could be made for sometimes flatting pre..but i personally would 3bet all 3 of these hands pre

01-03-2013 , 06:57 AM

thegrinder12

adept

Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 960

Quote:

Originally Posted by scared2raise

My question was if 3b is better than flatting, never talked about folding

01-03-2013 , 09:26 AM

LosingShark

adept

Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 1,008

folding these hands is terrible as said above.

for your question, it just depends.

calling is fine, so is 3betting. its seems like you'd have trouble stealing the pot w/o initiative, so just take that pre-flop and 3bet these. if you get 4bet, just fold or jam.

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