1/2 6-max, $200 effective

villan is on all 4 of my tables. he recently sat at this one and on all others shows signs of tagginess. he opens in position/folds oop/other than that, no real specific read. but general observations = TAG.

hero shouldnt have much of an image, i double barreled another dumbass a few hands earlier though and might appear aggro.

PF: Folds to Hero who opens to $7 in CO with AA. Villan calls in the sb and calls $6, all else fold.

($16)Flop: 763

villan bets $16, Hero...?

raaaaazzzzzzeeeeee
why?
cuz u have rawkets
The only way to find out what donk bets mean is to light them up, amirite?

callllllll
why?
because hes bluffing a decent amount and i neither want to raise/fold nor raise/get it in.

what's your position pre?

I see TAGs donk into the PFA with sets/other powerful made hands (here 54s)/middlepairs/draws/very rarely air.

Given that range you're only behind 13 of his combos. Raise for value and protection here. I guess you would also pay off a shove. If villain 3bets smaller you 'll have to make a decision if he is tricky enough to be doing this with worse.

Sugar Nut

buuuuuut, he's gonna think our raise is what we're suppose to do w/ AQo, so we are outplaying him by playing straight forward.

seriously though, when a reg donks pot vs me here I will call a lot, but raising is good cuz it's a value bet. and value bets make $$. He might be getting tricky w/ TT,JJ or w/e

If he 3bets, then hmmmmmmm........then it gets icky.

I may just call since we don't know much about villain. I think if we raise and he calls or 3bets we're in a fairly awkward situation as the pot is bigger and it will be tougher to pot control. By calling we allow him bluff/v-bet worse on the turn. I wouldn't want to get it in on the flop without more info.

Cib

I raise and get it in. Pairs are hard to make- 2pr and sets even harder! Straights? Ya, right. Nearly impossible. I mean, a call isn't bad if we have any reason to think he'll continue bluffing/betting worse. But since I'd pop this flop with air I'm obviously doing it with the nizzles here.

O-man, is this on AP or somewhere else?

manu somewhere else.

bg, i think raising without having any idea what to do if he 3-bets is quite bad.

sugar,
sorry, i was the CO

well, i call of course. when people donk bet w/ sets/twoper it's usually not pot.

i should also note that this site has a 'pot' button if that has any relevance.

well i have to raise here b/c i raise donk bets like its my job (against bad players)

call. if you raise you will be getting it in vs. sets, 2 pair, str8s, and MAYBE some weird ass slowplayed big overpair. 88-99 isnt felting here and alot of ppl pop those up pre anyways. plus if he is bluffing there is not reason to stop him from 2 barreling.


TAGish players dont got nuts in non 3 bet pots with marginal overpairs so im not excited at all if he 3 bets, therefore i call.





there is obviously still alot of value in your hand though

i do too as well, but does the fact that my read of him being a tag change your decision at all?

i think raising because we think this TAG will interpret this as weakness and give us value is kind of a stretch

i call since i hate getting 3b

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In regards to the hand. You gonna check this flop behind a fair amount of time. So its both reasonable for him to want to bet with a set to get some value, with OESD, and with middle pairs, and gutshots. Now this is all reasoanble. From my experience, its mostly sets / guthsots, but these depends on a lot of things, esp table dynamics. I mean the thing is, if he is decent he is felting almost all of his range to your 3bet. Because he simply expects you to spazz out to this bet a lot of the time. Based on that I think we are getting all in. You basically hoping to make money of him respazzing your spazz. What I would look for most importantly is his W$WSF. If its in 30's I think we might be better off calling cos I dont expect him to shove over for value with 99 or rebluff with a gutshot. But if its around 45, I fist pump

52 call

It makes me more likely to call. I probably call here as well if I don't have a read on his donk betting tendencies.

1/2 6-max, $200 effective

villan is on all 4 of my tables. he recently sat at this one and on all others shows signs of tagginess. he opens in position/folds oop/other than that, no real specific read. but general observations = TAG.

hero shouldnt have much of an image, i double barreled another dumbass a few hands earlier though and might appear aggro.

PF: Folds to Hero who opens to $7 in CO with AA. Villan calls in the sb and calls $6, all else fold.

($16)Flop: 763

villan bets $16, Hero calls $16

($48)Turn:2
Villan bets $35, Hero...?

call again, then prolly again

If you are calling flop and blank hits the turn we going to fold now? He has 1010 and didn'd reraise. I mean seriously.. let him continue to represent a monster.. Why would he lead into you on every street? I think he's FOS too often to ever fold.. If you are asking if you should raise I'd say no. Not many scare cards coming on the river + you scare him off too easily. The real question might be if he checks river what do you do?

call again... think the reasons why are a lot more clear here

I would raise the flop and get it in if he 3bets. If he thinks he can profitably set mine in the blinds against our CO opening range, well, gg/nh/wp/fu ******.

As played though, call turn, as likelihood of getting paid by worse if you flat flop/raise turn goes way down I think.

2h is a good card. So call again.

I think (too) that the real question is when he checks the river but thats depends a lot of the river card.

if he checks the river, 3/5 pot it.