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AA missed value on river? AA missed value on river?

01-09-2008 , 05:09 AM
This might be an easy hand but I figured I would see what people say about it.

The only reads I had was that SB was not a good player and had a pretty wide range, and that the BTN was a decent player (TAGish, but has a slightly wider preflop range than most TAGs). My concern was not the SB but more the BTN as I wasn't sure where he stood. I suppose I put his flop call on an overpair like 77-JJ or maybe a flush draw and once and a while a set.

Should I be betting this river? How about check/call?

also, how is my turn play? I felt I had a pretty aggro image so I was actually looking for a check/raise against BTN's bet but he failed to make that happen.

$0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BTN: $126.95
SB: $25.10
BB: $103.90
Hero (UTG): $264.25
CO: $80.75

Pre-Flop: A A dealt to Hero (UTG)
Hero raises to $3.50, CO folds, BTN calls $3.50, SB calls $3, BB folds

Flop: ($11.50) 4 3 2 (3 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $8, BTN calls $8, SB calls $8

Turn: ($35.50) J (3 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($35.50) Q (3 Players)
SB checks, Hero ??
01-09-2008 , 05:13 AM
If you were gonna check/raise the turn, why wouldn't you bet the river? No draws completeted and I don't see either villain having QJ/JJ/QQ or something.

I don't like the check on the turn. You're giving drawing hands a free card, that aren't going to pay you off if they miss.

Last edited by Jamming Monkey; 01-09-2008 at 05:19 AM.
01-09-2008 , 05:14 AM
I think continue betting on the turn, to something like 25-30.

As played, I would still bet river, 55 - TT might call thinking you had AK. Sb doesnt seem like he has much, and button most probably would've bet the turn with all the draws out there.

River seems like a somewhat blank. Bet $20 on river. Button raise I might call, but probably fold to sb raise on river.
01-09-2008 , 05:30 AM
Don't check the turn, there are tons of draws. Bet the river, you'll get looked up by any pair
01-09-2008 , 05:44 AM
What if we get raised on the turn?
01-09-2008 , 05:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by smolik75
What if we get raised on the turn?
Defintely getting it in against SB, since he's shortstacking.
01-09-2008 , 06:01 AM
Bet the turn and you have to bet the river, there is nothing to make you believe you dont have the best hand.
01-09-2008 , 06:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamming Monkey
Defintely getting it in against SB, since he's shortstacking.
right, but what about BTN?
01-09-2008 , 06:08 AM
bet turn for whatever SB has -$1 so if he want to c/c AI he adds another $1.
So you bet SB-stack -$1. if BTN calles, SB will likely move in, and then you can overshove to get BTN's dead money.
01-09-2008 , 06:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tempel
bet turn for whatever SB has -$1 so if he want to c/c AI he adds another $1.
So you bet SB-stack -$1. if BTN calles, SB will likely move in, and then you can overshove to get BTN's dead money.
It doesn't work like this.
01-09-2008 , 06:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by smolik75
right, but what about BTN?
BTN could raise with a lot of hands here. Definetly some monsters like a set, but also flush draws and TPTK or even TT/QQ. I think a call is much better than a fold in that spot.

River doesnt change anything on the board, so I would C/C river.
01-09-2008 , 06:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SharpObject
It doesn't work like this.
lool sharp, wasn't that serious.

      
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