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04-29-2015 , 06:46 AM
Hello.

Effective stacks £50, 6max, villain is just some reg. Don't have my notes on him but we don't have a huge amount of history. I know he is 6 tabling.

Villain opens MP to £1.50

Fish in SB calls

Hero calls in BB with JcTh

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Flop: 9cTcQs (£4.50)

Fish checks,

hero checks,

villain bets £3,

Fish folds,

hero calls

don't think we can fold flop but he doesn't have a bluffing range on this board especially with the fish on the pot. Intention is to either get there or win with the worst hand

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Turn: 9cTcQs5c (£10.50)

Hero bets £8.50

Villain tank calls

I lead my flushes here and maybe can have like QT. When he cbets flop he usually has KQ min so not anticipating a fold that often here, but we have equity and plan to bomb rivers

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River: 9cTcQs5c4h (£27.50)

Hero bets £21

What do we think? Hard for me to have bluffs and imo he can't call over pairs / Qx happily at all. Also I feel like if I don't do this with JT I literally have no bluffs ever.

Last edited by dalonelybaptist; 04-29-2015 at 06:59 AM.
04-29-2015 , 04:44 PM
Nobody? Got called a spewy fish on reddit.

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04-29-2015 , 04:58 PM
I like it.
I don't know if it isn't more likely that you would c/r flushes turn (more than leading).
But since you're 100BB deep effective you successed in putting 60BB turn and river without the fear that he might check back turn, so it would be also a good play with a flush.

So i think it's pretty good play, but not sure Vilain sees that play that way (and i think he might be thinking you retake the lead with a hand like AJ or J7s on the turn so not sure Vilain won't put you on a Jx draw with or without a club).

Last edited by I'mAFrenchDonkey; 04-29-2015 at 05:07 PM. Reason: thought the flop was QJ9, so i was talking about Tx draws (AT T7s) instead of Jx draws on QT9 flop.
04-30-2015 , 05:59 AM
I think it's fine. There are other ways if playing it, but I'm not sure any are really any better than this.
04-30-2015 , 06:13 AM
And wtf about being called out on reddit.
04-30-2015 , 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by DTD
And wtf about being called out on reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/poker/comme...ort=confidence

90% of responses on there are awful but there's a couple good players

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04-30-2015 , 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by DTD
I think it's fine. There are other ways if playing it, but I'm not sure any are really any better than this.
+1. Pretty much sums up my thoughts on it.
04-30-2015 , 10:47 AM
reddit lol. That guy calling you a spew fish is tilting.

It's fine. Multiple ways of playing it.
04-30-2015 , 12:25 PM
Not so sure we should have a turn leading range, villain's range is still a lot stronger than ours and leading flushes makes our check/calling range pretty capped.

Other than that, seems fine.
05-01-2015 , 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ForeverLearning
Not so sure we should have a turn leading range, villain's range is still a lot stronger than ours and leading flushes makes our check/calling range pretty capped.

Other than that, seems fine.
Does it matter if it's capped? Like. What can he do about it really?

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05-01-2015 , 02:18 AM
he can bet a wider range
05-01-2015 , 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ForeverLearning
he can bet a wider range
But we can just call anyway

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05-01-2015 , 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by dalonelybaptist
But we can just call anyway

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Yeah but your EV is still going to be significantly lower when there is such a huge range disparity. The opponent can mathematically correctly bluff you with many more hands due to having many more nut combinations relative to your range (for example, TT is the nuts if you don't have flushes.) You need to make sure the hands in your leading range are gaining enough EV vs when you check them which may or may not be true.
05-01-2015 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by dalonelybaptist
But we can just call anyway

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Which is the same as folding ev-wise against a balanced range.
05-03-2015 , 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ForeverLearning
Which is the same as folding ev-wise against a balanced range.
Too complicated for me. Don't see it. I just play my cards I do.

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05-03-2015 , 08:12 PM
you don't understand that villain can value-bet more hands when your range is weaker?
05-03-2015 , 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ForeverLearning
you don't understand that villain can value-bet more hands when your range is weaker?
Well... Not if they are behind our range no

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05-04-2015 , 01:15 PM
ok, nevermind

      
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