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200NL - Turned trips gets checkraised allin

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01-19-2008 , 03:33 PM

mdkrahn

adept

Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 979

I already posted tried posting this hand earlier,
but I misposted the board and got no useful discussion, so here I go again.

both villains are fish, though neither have done anything too crazy this session.

both are around 42/16/2.

Effective stacks $200.
6 handed.

Crypto 1/2NL

Hero raises T8 from MP, all fold but CO and bb.

Flop: 892r
bb checks, Hero bets 16, both call

Turn 8 offsuit
bb checks, Hero bets 48, CO calls, bb raises All In, Hero???

01-19-2008 , 03:47 PM

Nick Royale

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 29,740

Fold preflop. I just call and call it a cooler.

01-19-2008 , 04:20 PM

Bigmoney

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,869

ugh, fold but it sucks

01-19-2008 , 04:23 PM

Snamuh

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Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,719

How often does BB have a worse 8 here? If he has a VPIP of 42%, then hands like 84s, 85s, 86s, 87s, 87o, 8To, 8Ts, etc are probably going to be in his range. I call but I'm not very happy with it. There's also the tiny possibility BB was getting "tricky" with a big PP and decided to play it ******edly. I'm also not really worried about the CO in this hand. His extra money in the pot gives me more of an incentive to call. And if you are beaten, at least the money is going to the fish rather than a nit who won't lose it back to you.

I also fold preflop though.

01-19-2008 , 04:26 PM

Wes B.

newbie

Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 14

definitely a nauseating spot, but I think you have to fold, at best I think you are looking at another 8. just given the line they both take, I just don't see you ahead of much. U probably have one of them beat, but definitely not the other. unlucky

01-19-2008 , 05:20 PM

kommunizt

grinder

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call100%.

01-19-2008 , 05:26 PM

ikestoys

banned

Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 94,424

guys look at villain's stats, he's an idiot, we have decent odds... call

01-19-2008 , 05:48 PM

mdkrahn

adept

Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 979

on a side note,

do you guys really think opening T8s from MP is a leak?

01-19-2008 , 05:51 PM

BombayBadboy

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If its a leak depends on your postflop skills

01-19-2008 , 06:07 PM

#10

Nick Royale

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Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 29,740

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdkrahn

on a side note,

do you guys really think opening T8s from MP is a leak?

Given the reads you've got I don't open it in this spot.

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