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01-11-2010 , 08:20 PM
Villains stats are 34/23 only out of 34 hands though so he's more of an unknown.

If turn wasn't an K, J or club draw it's easy shut down imo. But since the flush card came and I do have overcards should I bet the turn, c/c or c/f?

If I bet and he shoves I feel kind of priced to call. If he bets isn't either a fold or shove?

Board:
CO: $429.55
Button: $211.05
SB: $175.20
BB: $228.75
UTG: $401.45
UTG+1: $98.45

Dealt to BB K J

Pre-flop:
(1 folds), UTG+1 calls $2, CO raises to $7, (2 folds), BB raises to $24, (1 folds), CO calls $17

Flop: ($53) 6 8 2 (2 Players)
BB bets $30, CO calls $30

Turn: ($113) 4 (2 Players)
BB bets ...
01-11-2010 , 08:36 PM
my default vs an unknown reg would be bet I don't thnk you get shoved on as much as you that much esp if he has no reason think you're 3b light and double barreling, I know it's only 34 hands so it's not really that relevent but I find the laggier opponents are much more likely to peel light in 3b pots
01-11-2010 , 08:38 PM
What if he shoves over my bet?
01-11-2010 , 09:01 PM
euh ... if villain flat a lot I'd like crai this turn but maybe it's spew.
01-12-2010 , 04:42 PM
other advice?
01-12-2010 , 05:14 PM
My advice is not to reraise from the BB. You can defend with a HUGE range and make moves that are not so expensive. Remember, you are OOP post flop so you want small pots with good implied odds when you hit. Make big pots when you have position.

As played... looks like villian noticed that you can cbet alot and that is why you got called on the flop. If you normally shut down here, a little semi bluff is probably much better EV than c/f. On the other hand If you double barrell alot, you might get to see a free card and get paid if you check and it hits. I think in this situation it depends alot on what you think villian is thinking you have. I cant get that from the OP.
01-12-2010 , 05:27 PM
I would not 3 bet the iso and just call play post flop. As played shove that turn yourself. It's a bit of a overbet but really your only option. You don't want to call his shove if you just bet so keep the initiative and put it in.
01-12-2010 , 06:08 PM
$80/call c/f river unimproved and shovel the rest otherwise.
01-12-2010 , 07:22 PM
If you're not betting this turn card then i think you should c/f flop
01-12-2010 , 07:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheKitbag
If you're not betting this turn card then i think you should c/f flop
+1
01-12-2010 , 07:52 PM
Prefer flatting pre-flop, as played i agree with Bonk.
01-12-2010 , 07:56 PM
bet/call here.
c/f river if you dont improve.
01-12-2010 , 08:36 PM
Okay. I thought it was a b/c just wanted to make sure. I bet 80 and then he shoved. He showed the straight but I caught the flush on river
01-12-2010 , 09:12 PM
I really think this board is bad to cbet considering what his assumed range is pf
01-13-2010 , 05:15 PM
can someone tell me why B/C is better than shove? Why do we want to call off when we can possibly create more FE by shoving with what is most likely the worst hand. If he shoves he is obviously doing for value and we are behind.

      
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