CO is 30/27 and seems very aggresive after 82 hands. I think preflop if I 5bet he only continues with AA or KK?? So then any way I could have played it differently besides check-guessing the whole ****?
On the river I see in his range only bluffs, KK or AA. Really doubt any 9 or TT are in his small 4betting range. So wtf...


Full Tilt Poker $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em $0.30 Ante - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: $196.10
SB: $349.65
Hero (BB): $878.90
UTG: $257.25
MP: $400.00
CO: $566.45

Pre Flop: ($4.80) Hero is BB with K K
2 folds, CO raises to $6, 2 folds, Hero raises to $22, CO raises to $52, Hero requests TIME, Hero calls $30

Flop: ($106.80) 9 3 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $55, Hero calls $55

Turn: ($216.80) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO requests TIME, CO bets $135, Hero calls $135

River: ($486.80) T (2 players)
Hero checks, CO requests TIME, CO bets $324.15 all in, Hero requests TIME

As played you gotta call this but I prefer jammin the turn

pre is std, u should flat your entire range u continue with.

I like jamming turn aswell.

wow thats sick..

but if you calling the turn you do plan to call any non heart and non ace river, dont you?

Yea I did call of course... He turned up exactly what I expected lol. The question is kinda more about the whole hand in general...

if you dont 5bet / shove prf.. you cant fold at any point of this hand imo

there is no way im folding here

I think this is a good hand to talk about 3bet and 4bet sizing when playing deep. I think I 3bet to 4x his raise preflop. Villain's 4bet is too small--I would make it 70-75.

lol, i think there is definetely room for folding, I mean youre risking a 600bb pot.
You have to call here profitably 1:2.5 times. I dont know if you can get there. His bluffrange is veryyyyy tiny imo, ( who is going to bluff and risk 300bb? ) I only see here AA/KK, and maybe 10% or less bluffs.

ok, let me get this straight, he 4-bets you super deep, you feel like he could 4-bet bluff, but most likely has AA or KK, he has position and again SUPER DEEP.

So rather than play a 4-bet pot OOP, why didn't you 5-bet fold? You are incredibly deep as I've said over and over. You can make a 108ish (54BB) 5-bet to rep aces and he's only gotta have a bluff just over half the time and depending on the villian you might fold out the other KK. (86 additional to win 74[3-bet&4-bet]+86)

If he continues to the 5-bet you know he has AA or KK, if its a 6-bet you're done...(no one is 6-bet bluffing imo even this deep), if he flats you can probably profitably make either a c-bet or cr the flop, but seriously not having initiative in this super deep stacked, 4-bet pot is ridiculous.

Maybe you don't play this deep pre-flop very often, but 5-betting is the way to go.

[ ] 5bet
[x] 4bet

so hes probably 4bet bluffing due to the fact they are deep..
and after hero just calls his 4bet hes putting him on AK / AQ type hands and desided this is a good spot to 3barrel bluff..

lmao you can't turn KK into a bluff.. in order for it to be a bluff it has to fold out better hands.. as played I prob. shove the turn or play it exactly like hero

5betting for info ftw.

I think you played it fine OP.

forget preflop, your c/c line essentially turns your hand into a bluffcatcher, if you are trying to stick it in anyway then you should raise flop, raise turn, at least it gives you some of the initiative in terms of turning potentially folding AA

and against an aggressive player, i dont think you can rule out a 9 because this is such a std 4bet spot from his perspective

In terms of why you should 5bet, if hes 4betting a wider range than QQ+ then oop i think there are going to be a lot of bad flops for you and it will be just difficult for him to play, while for the most part i don't think your 4bet flatting range is that wide at all

This has to be a level....Your stats and how villian perceives you is important in this situation. Flatting pre is fine. I think C/Rai on the turn is slightly better than calling down unless u have some sick read that he is capable of spewing 300 BB in 4-bet pots.

Played well now call, dislike jamming turn.

River is pretty close. Just wanted to LOL at the 5bet/fold suggestion and contribute my derision.

does anyone else simply feel that on the river his range absolutely 9x+ or AA?

Lol yep, I felt it was 90% AA and 10% air But, oh well, seems like the general consensus is that I must call (the way I played it), and feeling in poker is bad, only Doyle Brunson can throw kings when he feels like the villain has them aces, right?

Snap call.

information is no reason to bet

info betting allows ur opponent to play perfectly in the sense of the fundamental theorem of poker

he was being facetious

yea, obv, how dumb of me lol