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200NL - KK River line double paired board 200NL - KK River line double paired board

02-21-2010 , 11:52 PM
Villian is fishy with 28/9/1 stats over 1.4k hands

River aggression is 1.7 with 25% frequency

Fold to flop cbet = 60%, Fold to turn cbet = 21%

Im really having a hard time putting him on a hand here.

Question is on the river, We wanna bet and get value from 88+ and A high but can we fold to this river shove?

I just cant see what he could possibly have that beats us.

Full Tilt Poker $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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Hero (SB): $200.00
BB: $65.65
UTG: $205.00
CO: $204.00
BTN: $200.00

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is SB with K K
UTG calls $2, 2 folds, Hero raises to $8, 1 fold, UTG calls $6

Flop: ($18.00) 7 2 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $12, UTG calls $12

Turn: ($42.00) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $28, UTG calls $28

River: ($98.00) 2 (2 players)
Hero requests TIME, Hero bets $62, UTG raises to $157 all in, Hero ????
02-22-2010 , 12:08 AM
I call. Lots of random draws miss. If you've seen him do fishy crap, he can show up with some random 88 here some of the time.
02-22-2010 , 12:09 AM
fist pump
02-22-2010 , 12:15 AM
snap and reload
02-22-2010 , 05:13 AM
he is repping 77/22/33

i cawl
02-22-2010 , 07:55 AM
A3 FML *reloads*

Guy kinda seems a bit passive, think i might just throw this one in the muck here cus he's never turning a hand into a bluff and we really only do beat a bluff here and given the action its pretty nuts attempting to pull a bluff here.
02-22-2010 , 08:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by King of the Swing
A3 FML *reloads*

Guy kinda seems a bit passive, think i might just throw this one in the muck here cus he's never turning a hand into a bluff and we really only do beat a bluff here and given the action its pretty nuts attempting to pull a bluff here.
i can totally see fish shoving overpair here "for value" and merging their range unintentionally
02-22-2010 , 08:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by thatssosick
i can totally see fish shoving overpair here "for value" and merging their range unintentionally
You say that, but really fish dont do this. Even fish arent completely brain dead despite what they do sometimes.

Fish raise flop or turn they wouldnt do it on the river on this type of board. Show me 5 examples from your HEM in the last week where you've seen a fish dot his and ill eat my hat.

      
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